On 24 November 2015 at 03:00, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:30:44PM +0100, karl ramberg wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:17 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > > On 23-11-2015, at 1:16 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Is this so that Scratch users won't have to see the pre-debugger?
>> >
>> > Nah,  the Scratch code handles it in ScratchSoundRecroderDialog or
>> > some-such. These couple of changes are simply suggestions for more politely
>> > handling a possible problem in a way that is a touch less painful than a
>> > primitiveFailed within a critical block. If people prefer the plain
>> > notifier for an unhandled Warning, fine.
>> >
>> > ChatNotes etc are not used by Scratch - though enabling group chat could
>> > be fun...
>> >
>> > >  If
>> > > a Scratch kid gets a debugger and clicks "Debug" isntead of
>> > > "Abanadon".  They might get confused or they might learn something..?
>> >
>> > I suspect a teacher of a class of 30-40 8 year olds trying to keep their
>> > minds on the required lesson might not see it as at all amusing. Remember,
>> > Scratch usage is now part of the national curriculum in the UK.
>> >
>>
>> Oh, that's really big.
>> Hope they enjoy it :-)
>>
>
> Indeed, it sounds like a pretty big deal, but not something that I would
> have remembered since I did not know about it in the first place. Tim,
> can you provide a link to "Scratch usage is now part of the national
> curriculum in the UK"?
>
> And when they say "Scratch" does it mean the real one, or the "improved"
> version that was reimplemented in a soon-to-be-dead language by wannabe
> IT managers?

I help run a Code Club (https://www.codeclub.org.uk/) at my boys'
school. It's an _old_ real Scratch, because we see a bug that Tim, on
the latest shiny real one, doesn't see, but it's definitely the Real
Scratch.

I don't know about official announcements etc., though. You'll see in
the Code Club sample projects target the Pretender Scratch. (Also, see
the Code Club curriculum:
https://www.codeclubprojects.org/en-GB/resources/scratch-intro/)

So maybe it's a school-by-school thing.

frank

> Dave