[squeak-dev] Menus and cmd keys considered quite, quite, mad

Tobias Pape Das.Linux at gmx.de
Wed Oct 28 15:41:17 UTC 2015


Hi,

On 28.10.2015, at 16:05, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> If we have to cache menus and introduce some "cache-flushing
> algorithm" merely for performance, then I think its a sign that we
> should do a critical re-evaluation of the pragma-based preferences.
> I'm starting to think the negative aspects they've brought to
> Preference management within the system outweigh their positives, when
> compared to simple object structures accessed by a unified API..

I don't agree. There'll always be a cache you have to remember to flush.
In fact, the Preferences are a cache even without the pragma prefs.


Best regards
	-Tobias

> 
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Chris,
>> 
>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2015, at 6:29 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tim, Squeak is a complex system, with a lot of functions and a complex
>>> interaction between human and machine.  No system like that is going
>>> to be the toddler-coddler you want it to be.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So override it, you have a "live" system.  The code IS the
>>> user-interface, just as much as the menus are...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That'll waste all the memory in your Pi...
>> 
>> No it won't :). First there's a gigabyte of ran on a Pi.  Second, if the menu system saves the symbolic firm of the menu rather than the rendered but so it should be quite compact.




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