Eliot Miranda-2 wrote
> Hi All,
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2016, at 9:33 AM, Eliot Miranda <

> eliot.miranda@

> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>>     how does one produce a nice timestamp, simply date and time as in
>> 
>>     7/7/2016 09:19:38
>> 
>> Trivial, right?
>> 
>> So
>> 
>>     Date today mmddyyyy, ' ', Time now print24 '7/7/2016 09:22:40.914'
>> 
>> .914, ah, nanos.  How useful.  Let's get rid of them.  No nanos: accessor
>> so
>> 
>>     Date today mmddyyyy, ' ', (Time now nanos: 0) print24 => MNU
>> 
>> but there's a seconds accessor, so
>> 
>>     Date today mmddyyyy, ' ', (Time now seconds: Time now seconds;
>> print24) '7/7/2016 00:00:41
>> 
>> ??  So seconds: is private, and isn't the dual of Time seconds:
>> 
>> Time seconds
>> 	^ self second
>> Time second
>> 	^ self asDuration seconds
>> Duration seconds
>> 	"Answer the number of seconds the receiver represents."
>> 	^seconds rem: SecondsInMinute
>> 
>> Looks broken to me.
> 
> Let me be more explicit, and ask for permission to fix this.  One basic
> bug is the asymmetry between seconds, an accessor that answers seconds mod
> 60, and seconds: that doesn't set seconds mod 60.  But seconds: is private
> and could be replaced by eg setTotalSeconds:, presumably without breaking
> clients, allowing seconds: to be redefined to do the right thing.
> 
> I note that the historic bug of changing the semantics of Time now to
> answer something with finer resolution than one second could have been
> avoided by adding eg exactlyNow or preciselyNow.
> 
> The problem with nanos (apart from the horrible abbreviation) is that it
> presumes a maximum precision that isn't well chosen.  Microseconds work
> out much better.  And I hope we change the internal representation
> accordingly.  But there needs to be done accessor that rounds to the
> nearest second without revealing the internal precision.  Time now
> toTheNearestSecond or Time theNearestSecondNow or...?
> 
>> 
>> Personally I think print24 should not print sub seconds.
>> 
>> cc'ing to Pharo because I want this timestamp to be the same in both
>> dialects for a profiling tool we want to use in both dialects.
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot

Hi Eliot,

please fix this. :-)

Best,
Marcel



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