FW: [squeak-dev] spyOnWorldFor:

Ron Teitelbaum ron at usmedrec.com
Wed Jul 13 17:17:06 UTC 2016

The pain of having so many email addresses!  Forwarding for squeak.


From: Ron Teitelbaum [mailto:ron at 3dicc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 1:13 PM


Yes you can rename it but please add the following in the class comment:


This class is dedicated in memory of Andreas Raab the person, the tremendous amount of work including his contributions to this class, and the contributions he made to the Squeak community.  


Suggestions or changes are welcome.




From: Eliot Miranda [mailto:eliot.miranda at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 12:37 PM
To: Ron Teitelbaum
Cc: Chris Muller; The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] spyOnWorldFor:




On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:

I think we should rename AndreasSystemProfiler to MessageTally,
replacing the old implementation.

Andreas' initials are still preserved on the methods that way, and we
maintain the generic naming that Smalltalk has always had since its


+1.  Ron, as a representative of the copyright holder, are you willing to give your ascent to this renaming and inclusion in the base?



On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
> H All,
>> On Jul 11, 2016, at 2:55 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at caesar.elte.hu> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Jul 2016, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
>>> Thanks.  Is there actually a reason to try AndreasSystemProfier, or
>>> does the MessageTally in Squeak 5.0 subsume it?
>> AndreasSystemProfier is more accurate, because it can measure the time spent in primitives.
> And hence in 5.x we could replace MessageTally with AndreasSystemProfiler and have only one copy of the code.
> If students are working on improving MessageTally they could (and IMO should) be redirected to AndreasSystemProfiler.
>> Levente
>>>> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Yoshiki,
>>>>    try an up-to-date VM.  I'd point you to Travis could but I don't see entirely green builds there right now.  So pick up the most up-to-date VM from my site.
>>>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org> wrote:
>>>>> I am trying a few things on Squeak 5.0.  In earlier versions there was
>>>>> AndreasSystemProfier (formerly known as QSystemProfier) and had a
>>>>> method called spyOnWorldFor:, which was quite useful.  I just loaded
>>>>> AndreasProfier-eem.11.mcz and tried it but it crashed the 5.0 all in
>>>>> one VM on Mac OS 10.10.
>>>>> Is this a known issue?  Is there an alternative to it?
>>>>> --
>>>>> -- Yoshiki
>>> --
>>> -- Yoshiki




best, Eliot

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