On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 04:05:35AM -0700, marcel.taeumel wrote:
> Chris Muller-3 wrote
> > I thought "6.0" was planned to be the 64-bit version of "5.1", and 5.1
> > the 32-bit version of the same image contents...
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Herbert K??nig <
> 
> > herbertkoenig@
> 
> > > wrote:
> >> Really exciting news!
> >>
> >> Herbert
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Urspr??ngliche Nachricht --------
> >> Von: "marcel.taeumel"
> >> Datum:13.07.2016 10:29 (GMT+01:00)
> >> An: 
> 
> > squeak-dev at .squeakfoundation
> 
> >> Betreff: [squeak-dev] [ANN] The Squeak 5.1 Release Plan
> >>
> >> Hey, there.
> >>
> >> I just want to inform all of you that we are in the middle of preparing
> >> the
> >> next Squeak 5.1 release. We are working on automation for
> >> generating/updating all release artifacts so that we are eventually able
> >> to
> >> shorten our release cycle in the future. For this, we are using
> >> smalltalkCI
> >> (thanks Fabio!), TravisCI, and AppVeyor.
> >>
> >> Here are the important dates:
> >>   * Feature Freeze on July 31, 23:59 AOE
> >>   * Code Freeze on August 14, 23:59 AOE
> >>   * Release between August 15 and 19
> >>
> >> As these dates suggest, our goal is to have the release before this
> >> year's
> >> ESUG. However, there is another important Smalltalk-related event this
> >> year:
> >> 20 years of Squeak. :-) Yeah! It was around October 1996, when the first
> >> Squeak came into the world. ...having its own worlds. :D So, it would
> >> only
> >> make sense to also have a special release for this birthday. For this, we
> >> revived all of the cool multimedia content, known from Squeak 1 through
> >> Squeak 3, and made it fit for the current Squeak code base. Oh, this is
> >> so
> >> exciting. :-)
> >>
> >> Anyway, what's with Squeak 5.1 and 64-bit? Since the release of Squeak
> >> 5.0,
> >> we've been working hard and made a lot of bug fixes and added some
> >> features
> >> to improve the overall usability and robustness of the Squeak live
> >> programming system. Meanwhile, the VMs improved as well. Cog's object
> >> format
> >> "Spur" got more robust, the JIT improved, and the whole code base moved
> >> from
> >> SVN to Git: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.
> >>
> >> Still, what's up with 64-bit? We have working 64-bit VMs for Mac OS X and
> >> Linux. Hence, we will take the chance and also release 64-bit bundles for
> >> Squeak 5.1. Be informed that this means a new .image file. You cannot
> >> open a
> >> 64-bit .image with a 32-bit VM and vice versa. This, however, is nothing
> >> serious because we are working on an updated version of our SystemTracer
> >> to
> >> convert back and forth. With limitations, of course. ;-) You cannot fill
> >> a
> >> bottle of beer into a shot glass.
> >>
> >> What's up with the All-in-one? There will be the usual 32-bit all-in-one
> >> package, which combines VMs for Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows. Since there
> >> will be no 64-bit Windows VM within the next two months, we refrain from
> >> creating an almost-all-in-one-32/64 package. This would only confuse the
> >> users. In the future, we can arguably expand the concept of the
> >> All-in-one
> >> to also contain 32-bit and 64-bit VMs and images.
> >>
> >> So, what are the prospective release artifacts for Squeak 5.1?
> >>   * All-in-one (Linux/Mac/Win) 32-bit
> >>   * Mac OS X App 32-bit, signed
> >>   * Mac OS X App 64-bit, signed
> >>   * Linux Bundle 32-bit
> >>   * Linux Bundle 64-bit
> >>   * Windows App (maybe with MSI Installer) 32-bit, maybe signed
> >>   * ZIP archive containing .image and .changes, no VM, no .sources
> >>
> >> We plan to also use the new release automation process for Squeak 5.0 and
> >> update those release artifacts as well. We will update our squeak.org
> >> Website but you will always find the artifacts on
> >> http://files.squeak.org/5.0 and http://files.squeak.org/5.1 .
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> View this message in context:
> >> http://forum.world.st/ANN-The-Squeak-5-1-Release-Plan-tp4906439.html
> >> Sent from the Squeak - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> yes, there were several loose ideas about 64-bit and version numbering. I'd
> say that if we manage to have 64-bit support for all platforms, we can
> release 64-bit image versions on a regular basis and then raise the version
> to 6.0. Right now, I consider 64-bit support as kind of experimental.
> Especially since we cannot just convert back to 32-bit and debug if
> something goes seriously wrong. There are still several strange things going
> on with rectangles and points becoming arbitrary fractions. Or something
> like that. :-)
>

I think that is a very good way to look at it. We want to get the 64-bit
image into wider use. As long as we make the limitations clear it should
be no problem.

Dave