[squeak-dev] Cross post to enlighten the eite

Levente Uzonyi leves at caesar.elte.hu
Sun May 8 09:21:37 UTC 2016


On Sat, 7 May 2016, ReliableRobots.com wrote:

> Tim,
> I think you may have something set up on your test system like you have on RPi's for Scratch, so a different VM than the one in the latest download is running your image perhaps?  I don't know the path that
> normally gets followed but when I copy squeak.exe from the LinuxAndWindows directory to the Resources directory and run it there, the halo result of a right click on an open window happens.

If you copy Squeak.exe, then you should copy the Squeak.ini file as well, 
because that contains the 3ButtonMouse setting. Without that, the VM will 
think that you're using a 2 button mouse.

Levente

> 
> Sorry to pop your balloon.  
> 
> Kirk
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> On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 2:07 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>       Leaving aside the pontificatory apoctypha for a moment -
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>       > Not just any 5.0 but 15113, the most recent download available on 5/5/16.
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>       Funny. My download of the same package shows that it starts up with the expected behaviour of the right button raising a menu and the middle button opening the halo. This is as expected and as has
>       been the case for a long time. It happens to be the *wrong* way in my opinion since quite obviously a middle button  (and all mice should have three, clearly) ought to open the contextual menus.
>       However, the preference is trivial to find and many unfortunates are inured to wrong way through a sad life of deprivation and privation whilst using inferior systems.
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>       Halos have been part of Morphic since before the dinosaurs roamed the earth. They are not an 'improvement that made Squeak as worthless as a balloon full of machine gun holes. ' that has suddenly
>       been foisted upon you by those of us in the elite {strokes white Persian cat while glaring at you from the Volcano Lair(™) on my secret estate on a Pacific Island} as a way of ruining your
>       morning.
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>       For the right button to open a halo would require
>       a) the preference being set that way in the release; which it is clearly not.
>       b) the preference having been set by the user, either deliberately or accidentally
>       c) the preference having been set previously, saved and then loaded by the user
>       d) the device’s mouse driver being swapped
>       e) use of a vm flag such as ‘-swapbtn’ on unix and probably others on Mac/Windows.
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>       >
>       > In college I read teachers discovered innovation for the sake of innovation was worthless.  It is time Squeak-Dev learned that and only make useful improvements.
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>       I’m glad I didn’t go to a college like that.
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>       >  I can't remember the Halo ever once being useful.  Take a class in SolidWorks and do that in Squeak instead of Morphic an other not useful improvements.
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>       The only useful part of the Solidworks UI I ever found was the exit.
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>       tim
>       --
>       tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
>       Useful Latin Phrases:- Canis meus id comedit = My dog ate it.
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