[squeak-dev] Immutability and become
bert at freudenbergs.de
Tue Jul 18 21:22:14 UTC 2017
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:10 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
> Hi Bert,
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>> +1 for making the whole object graph be immutable.
> This really doesn't make sense as it prevents any kind of change at all,
> e.g. to the class hierarchy, and as Nicolas points out, prevents updating
> objects if their class definitions are modified.
> When we added "immutability" to VisualWorks (actually read-only objects)
> we held off, and made only literals immutable. I'd like to see us make
> CompiledMethods immutable too, but this wold introduce complications in
> condensing changes/sources, adding/deleting breakpoints, etc. One can
> provide an exception handler or a beMutableWhile: facility to make it easy
> to temporarily make read-only objects writable.
Or are you meaning that when an object is made immutable all its sub-state
> is made immutable too? (An idea I have no problems with,
Yes, that. Which means that immediates and nil/true/false should become
immutable too. In fact, isn't any stateless object already immutable?
> provided it does't imply that classes can't change).
The class should not be made immutable, agreed, but you shouldn't be able
change the shape of instances, me thinks.
- Bert -
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