On 11/30/17, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> In an Etoys image, you can switch a SystemBrowser to show the Smalltalk
> source code as tiles (it's the far-right "source" button that lets you
> switch to byte codes etc).

How do I get at the SystemBrowser in an Etoy image?

--Hannes

>
> This uses SyntaxMorphs.
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> It's not typically used by Etoys users, or anyone really, except for making
> the point that "tile-based" programming can be just just as general as
> "text-based" programming. Both are simply user interfaces to specify
> behavior.
>
> It would be cool to resurrect and improve though.
>
> Btw, Jens Mönig made a similar browser for Smalltalk code using
> Scratch-like tiles. I think it was in his BYOB image. Looked pretty nice,
> too.
>
> - Bert -
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Bob Arning <arning315 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> There is a preference -- #universalTiles -- that uses SyntaxMorph instead
>> of PhraseTileMorph. What people are actually using, I do not know. Here
>> is a snippet suggesting intentions (assuming you are the type to take
>> comments at face value):
>> newScriptorAround: aPhrase
>>     "Sprout a scriptor around aPhrase, thus making a new script.  aPhrase
>> may either be a PhraseTileMorph (classic tiles 1997-2001) or a
>> SyntaxMorph
>> (2001 onward)"
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>> On 11/29/17 10:31 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
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>> Hmmm... I am using a Etoys-Dev-4.1 image for reference, and #testAll does
>> run successfully in that image.
>>
>> Sorry for asking a really dumb question, but I actually don't know if
>> SyntaxMorph plays an important role in Etoys? Or is it just a leftover
>> artifact of some earlier experiment?
>>
>> From the point of view of an Etoys user, if SyntaxMorph is something
>> that should work then we should import the missing methods and update
>> them as needed. But if it is just a leftover curiousity that does not
>> matter to the kids who actually use Etoys, then we can ignore it or
>> delete it or deprecate it. Unfortunately I don't know Etoys very well,
>> so I have to ask.
>>
>> Dave
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>> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02:01PM -0500, Bob Arning wrote:
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>> FWIW, #testAll did not work as far back as Squeak 3.2 of 2002 vintage.
>> The first error I encountered was in
>> SyntaxMorph>>printCascadeNodeOn:indent: and I suspect that when
>> SyntaxMorph was repurposed, cascades were not important.
>>
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>> On 11/29/17 9:31 PM, David T. Lewis wrote:
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>> SyntaxMorph is in the Etoys package, but is missing the
>> asMorphicSyntaxIn:
>> methods that are needed in the ParseNode hierarchy.
>>
>> I tried importing the missing methods from an Etoys development image,
>> which
>> is sufficient to make SyntaxMorph class>>test work. But SyntaxMorph
>> class>>testAll
>> runs into problems, so I am expecting that the various compiler and Spur
>> enhancements in recent years mean that some work would need to be done in
>> this area.
>>
>> I am inclined to commit the current (old) version the missing methods to
>> the
>> Etoys package, but I do not want to do that if they were intentionally
>> removed
>> or if someone has a plan to provide a fully working update.
>>
>> Dave
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