[squeak-dev] Finishing 5.2 (was Re: Project for 'after 5.2 release')

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Mon Aug 13 00:57:28 UTC 2018


On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 3:15 PM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

>
>
> > On 12-08-2018, at 1:33 PM, Fabio Niephaus <lists at fniephaus.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 7:24 PM tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > I'm not sure if it's still in there (really, it should never have been
> but that's a different story) but the image header used to have some data
> specifying a window size. You *could* do a little header manipulation to
> set it to whatever size you think appropriate post-save.
> >
> > It's still there, but I'd like to avoid manipulating the header
> manually. The VM should do the right thing anyway...
>
> Well, now that is an interesting can of annelids to access. I've long
> argued that there should be no need for that info in the header because
> there should be no window getting opened until and unless the image code
> requests it. The RISC OS vm for example only opens the main window if a
> copyBits writes something to the Display form; that way a headless system
> needs no silly command line flag etc - just have your image not write to a
> window! I mean, wow, how innovative is that?
>
> What I claim ought to happen is something along the lines of
> image starts.
> some code writes to a window.
> image works out useful things like host screen size(s), any environment or
> config file or in-image size requests and how to format the content to suit.
> Host window opens and displays said content.
>

+1


> Since we can't do all that this week, I suspect that fudging the image
> header data is probably the least-worst solution for now.


+1


> It might be possible to set the build machines to pretend to have a
> suitable window size in some way but you're probably looking at some
> time-consuming digging to find out how to get it right for each platform.
>

Edgar's suggestion of 1024x768 is a sensible one.  One could indent by 32 at 32
to allow for host menu bars etc.


> tim
> --
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>

_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot
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