[squeak-dev] All-In-One distribution (was: Changing the Trunk version from 6.0alpha to 5.2alpha)

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Wed Jun 6 16:05:20 UTC 2018


Hi Edwin,

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 8:11 AM, Edwin Ancaer <eancaer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> Now I am not counting on making massive amounts of money with Squeak, but
> I would like to know if someone with a good knowledge of Squeak
> environment, could arrive at applications that can relatively stand the
> comparison (taking into account that Squeak is open source) with
> applications developed  with VA Smalltalk or Gemstone.
>

Please ask your question again using a separate thread instead of hijacking
a very important thread on a specific subject.

Thank you.


>
> I can imagine Squeak suffering a bit on the UI-part, but would there be
> much difference in supported functionalities, you think?
>
> All applications are for personnal use, and as good looking an interface
> can be, I attach more importance to the usability of my applications
> anyway. Of course if one can get both....
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Edwin Ancaer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Op wo 6 jun. 2018 15:42 schreef Louis LaBrunda <Lou at keystone-software.com
> >:
>
>> Hi Germán,
>>
>> Just an FYI, and not to knock Squeak or Pharo you might take a look at
>> VA Smalltalk http://www.instantiations.com or GemStoneS
>> https://gemtalksystems.com.  May people
>> use them to develop business and web applications with them.
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>> >Hi Dave:
>> >
>> >I enjoyed a lot smalltalk and its communities but I failed thinking that
>> I
>> >could make a living with it. Might be my lack of talent but other people
>> >with an infinite more capability than me failed at same way and my
>> >stubbornness for use Smalltalk in my business only made me lost lot of
>> time
>> >and money.
>> >
>> >Of course I miss the technical purity of Smalltalk and objects
>> everywhere,
>> >but it is not viable, in my pov, to develop massive business
>> applications,
>> >neither web, nor desktop and much less mobile.
>> >
>> >Just my opinion.
>> >
>> >Saludos / Regards,
>> >Germán Arduino
>> >@garduino
>> >
>> >
>> >2018-06-01 23:39 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:01:31PM -0300, Germ??n Arduino wrote:
>> >> > 2018-06-01 9:33 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 12:50:08AM -0700, John Pfersich wrote:
>> >> > > > Smalltalk is a hobby; I haven???t had an offer for Smalltalk work
>> >> since
>> >> > > 2005.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > >> As with you, Smalltalk is a hobby for me.
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > I should have realized this before and then I would not have wasted
>> 20
>> >> > years with Smalltalk, who barely bought me a cup or two of tea :(
>> >>
>> >> You should think twice about this. If you thought that Smalltalk was
>> going
>> >> to make you rich, then you are probably a sad and disappointed person.
>> If
>> >> you thought that Smalltalk might be a tool to help you think clearly
>> and
>> >> explore new ideas, then you may be a happy and satisfied person.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know if anyone will ever make any money by being happy and
>> >> satisfied,
>> >> but I can say that in my own experience that the learning that I have
>> done
>> >> with Squeak has been a big part of enabling me to make a decent income
>> in
>> >> the last 10 or 15 years of my professional life.
>> >>
>> >> To put it in more concrete terms: I do systems integration work for a
>> >> manufacturing company, and this involves (among other things) some
>> custom
>> >> software development (not Squeak, not Smalltalk). I am good at what I
>> >> do, and I get paid for it. A significant part of the "I am good at what
>> >> I do" aspect is attributable to Squeak, or more specifically the
>> learning
>> >> that I have derived from Squeak.
>> >>
>> >> So I am a happy "hobby" Smalltalker. I make zero income from Squeak,
>> but I
>> >> can honestly tell you that a good deal of my actual professional income
>> >> is supported by my hobby.
>> >>
>> >> YMMV,
>> >>
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> --
>> Louis LaBrunda
>> Keystone Software Corp.
>> SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>


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best, Eliot
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