[squeak-dev] Survey: what do you do with Squeak, what do you *want* to do?

Herbert König herbertkoenig at gmx.net
Wed Mar 7 13:10:33 UTC 2018


Hi Benoit,

you're the second one to talk about genetic algorithms in Squeak.

Care for some email exchange about the topic?


Cheers,


Herbert


Am 07.03.2018 um 13:48 schrieb Benoit St-Jean via Squeak-dev:
> Q-What do you use Squeak for?
>
> Genetic algorithms, scripting (a LOT), experimenting, Euler Project 
> code, a chess engine, random data generator, cleaning up/transforming 
> crappy data from databases and/or other sources, keeping up with new 
> ideas in Smalltalk.
>
> Q-If you don't use Squeak, why not?
>
> Lack of a decent GUI builder. And unstability of the base code and/or 
> difficulty to find code/frameworks/applications that load in-one-shot 
> without me having to debug in the first place!
>
> Q-If you used Squeak in the past and don't now, what pulled you away?
>
> Lack of a decent GUI builder.  Lack of a decent Windows support.
>
> Q-What does Squeak lack that you think might make you use it for 
> 'regular' development?
>
> A decent GUI builder.  And a central code repository that wouldn't 
> make loading code a crazy adventure every time.
>
> If I want Python code, all I have to do is to visit PyPI. If I want 
> Ruby code, all I have to do is to visit RubyGems. If I want R code, 
> all I have to do is to visit CRAN R. If I want VisualWorks code, all I 
> have to do is to visit Cincom Public Repository...
>
> Now, if I want Squeak code, I have to visit SqueakSource, 
> SmalltalkHub, GitHub, SqueakSource3, SqueakMap and use a GitHub tool, 
> or file in some code, or use the package manager, or use Monticello, 
> or use the Package Universe browser, or Gofer, or the SqueakMap 
> Catalog Browser, or... Well, you get the picture.  Besides, once I've 
> found what I was looking for, often times the code doesn't load 
> because it was ported to Pharo... or it's never been updated to be 
> compatible with the current Squeak version.
>
> Another tool Squeak needs is an image packager (à la VW or VAST or 
> Dolphin) that works!  NOT scripts!
>
> Q-What things are too hard or annoying to do?
>
> Building GUIs, again. Package an image to deploy.  Keeping up with the 
> base code.  Who need traits, really?  Who uses traits, really? It 
> would have been more beneficial to invest that time/effort into 
> cleaning up morphic, modularizing the code, create a GUI builder and 
> an Image Stripper !
>
> Q-What would you like to be able to use Squeak for?
>
> Everything.  I've always been a Smalltalker!
>
>
>
>
>
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