Hi Eliot,

On Sun, 27 May 2018 at 10:06 am, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On May 26, 2018, at 2:02 PM, Fabio Niephaus <lists at fniephaus.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 6:40 PM Bernhard Pieber <bernhard at pieber.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> So it was just race condition. :-)
>>
>> Thank you for fixing the upload!
>>
>> I saw that the 5.2alpha build contains the VM with the version
>> 201804030952, which is not the latest version on Bintray (and interestingly
>> is not even in the versions list on
>> https://bintray.com/opensmalltalk/vm/cog).
>>
>
> The VMs on Bintray are removed after a few weeks to save storage costs.
> More importantly, these VMs are considered bleeding edge and I don't think
> it's a good idea to test a bleeding edge Squeak image with a bleeding edge
> VM. If something is broken, it can be really hard to tell if the problem is
> in the VM or in the image.
> The VMs that ship with the current 5.2alpha builds are from the latest VM
> pre-release which you can find at [1]. Unfortunately, the latest stable VM
> release [2] is from 2016.
>
>
> This is so depressing.  What's the process by which a stable VM release is
> made?  That process is broken.  We have to fix it.  2016?!?!
>

I recently tried to do a release because of this, but got some pushback.
Instead, I did a pre-release, so there's at least a checkpoint we can use
for Squeak. We can easily promote that pre-release to be a proper release,
we can even do a new full release today or in a few days. But I don't want
to make that decision on my own, especially because I'm not update to date
on everything that's been worked on.

Fabio


> Fabio
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/tag/201804030952
> [2] https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/latest
>
>
>
>>
>> Should testing happen with this VM or with the latest from Bintray?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bernhard
>>
>> > Am 26.05.2018 um 16:58 schrieb Fabio Niephaus <lists at fniephaus.com>:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > TravisCI just generated the first set of 5.2alpha artifacts including
>> updated VMs which are now available at [1]. This URL actually links to the
>> same folder you can find at [2].
>> > Although recent TravisCI builds have passed, this folder was empty
>> because of an issue with the updater which Marcel and I just resolved.
>> > Therefore, all new artifacts are now uploaded to the 5.2alpha directory
>> and should show up at [1]/[2].
>> >
>> > Happy testing!
>> >
>> > Fabio
>> >
>> > [1] http://files.squeak.org/trunk/
>> > [2] http://files.squeak.org/5.2alpha/
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 1:20 PM H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi Bernard
>> >
>> > A solution which works well for the meantime is to take early May
>> download from
>> >
>> > http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/
>> >
>> > And update from within the image.
>> >
>> > One of the updates is the rename to 5.2alpha. The result is attached.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > --Hannes
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5/26/18, Bernhard Pieber <bernhard at pieber.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I wanted to get a current trunk image to help testing the new release.
>> > > Normally, I go to http://squeak.org/downloads/ and click the trunk
>> link
>> > > http://files.squeak.org/trunk/. This leads to an empty directory. I
>> guess
>> > > this might be an unintended consquence of the rename.
>> > >
>> > > Are you going to rename the folder and files in
>> > > http://files.squeak.org/6.0alpha/ as well?
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Bernhard
>> > >
>> > >> Am 24.05.2018 um 10:44 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <Marcel.Taeumel at hpi.de
>> >:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi, there.
>> > >>
>> > >> We are going to change the current version number of the Trunk to
>> > >> "5.2alpha" to denote our plans for the upcoming Squeak release. After
>> > >> several discussions within the board and with our release manager
>> Edgar,
>> > >> we came to conclusion that it makes sense to postpone the "6.0" a
>> little
>> > >> bit to finish some bigger concerns such as the use of ephemerons and
>> Etoys
>> > >> clean-up.
>> > >>
>> > >> Best,
>> > >> Marcel
>>
>
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