Well, the OpenGL plugin itself isn’t 64-bit last I checked, and I’m not sure what else. Croquet/Cobalt may auto-install stuff that I never noticed.

There’s also an issue with Croquet/Cobalt only working properly because every vlirny generates exactly the same (bit-identical) values in every possible respect.

Integer handling  (and 32-bit floating point) in 32-bit vs 64-bit squeak may break that. It may be possible to create “proxy” classes for integers and floats and use those in both 32-bit and 64-bit Croquet, and allow the objects on the client-side resolve any oddness, but as it stands now, my understanding is that a SmallInteger on a 32-bit VM isn't the same as a SmallInteger on a 64-bit VM and that is an automatic fail for the paradigm that Croquet is based on, so simply updating Croquet to 64-bit will automatically make it incompatible with 32-bit Croquet.

Which kinda defeats the original "deploy everywhere that Squeak works” philosophy.


L

> On Oct 22, 2018, at 4:36 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lawson,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 01:24:16PM -0700, LawsonEnglish wrote:
>> https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/ <https://blog.krestianstvo.org/en/open-croquet-for-squeak-6/>
>> 
>> 
>> This sounds really cool, but there???s an issue coming up:
>> 
>> Apple is doing away with ANY support for 32-bit apps and plugins and of course, Croquet is built for 32-bits and uses 32-bit plugins all over the place.
>> 
> 
> We collectively have a good deal of experience in updating plugins
> for 64 bits, and of course the VMs (the "application") are already
> there. Can you remind us what plugins are needed for Croquet that are
> not already in the supported VMs?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Croquet could STILL be the killer-app for Smalltalk even though it never realized its potential in the past, and it won???t be able to if something isn???t done about the looming 32-bit vs 64-bit issue.
>> 
>> Need I point out that it should work on Pharo just the same way it does on Squeak?
>> 
>> L
>> 
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>