[squeak-dev] Etoys bugs (was: [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019)

Thiede, Christoph Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de
Sat Dec 21 12:57:17 UTC 2019


Hi all,


I'm collecting further errors that are raised when loading Etoys projects. See current progress here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XxlCzenZaUbcIhhorpuji6hvOFzonoXl8ahSwAO7B6I/edit?usp=sharing

[https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/cfKOjAeZi3VAHVRC0GFlqNOKkic9Pm4gJMMju7woqgKE96jJh7CtvBCMpTA2t9u-T6E7ng=w1200-h630-p]<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XxlCzenZaUbcIhhorpuji6hvOFzonoXl8ahSwAO7B6I/edit?usp=sharing>

Etoys testing report - Google Docs<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XxlCzenZaUbcIhhorpuji6hvOFzonoXl8ahSwAO7B6I/edit?usp=sharing>
docs.google.com
Etoys testing report Testing on #19282 overall loading experience why is my language set to German? This is my system language, but I never asked for it in Squeak! english is twice in the list: trying to draw a sketch: the sketch palette is half out of screen either I am too stupid, or there...

Best,
Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Thiede, Christoph
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Dezember 2019 12:35 Uhr
An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev; Taeumel, Marcel
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019


Hi all, Hi Marcel!


> * http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1183

What are the exact goals of these tests? Is it about reporting a maximum number of bugs (in order to fix each of them at any time), or rather about gaining an overall impression of the failure rate?
Only having tested the first project, I can tell you of four separate bugs. Please see the attached bug documentation. Does this doc match your expectations of testing granularity, or should I
a) go into greater detail (and even try to fix the bugs), or
b) be more perfunctory and only check whether a project runs without errors?


Best,

Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019 17:01:30
An: John Pfersich via Squeak-dev
Betreff: [squeak-dev] [ANN] Feature Freeze on Sunday, December 8, 2019


Hi, all! :-)

On behalf of Hannes Hirzel, who is our release manager for Squeak 5.3 (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/275), I am happy to announce the next feature freeze. It will be this Sunday, December 8, 2019.

(Hannes is quite busy these days. During the past months, we exchanged many thoughts on this release. So let us make it happen! I am sure he will pop up on the squeak-dev list soon again.)

During that freeze (aka. beta phase), we want to focus on bug hunting; new features will be collected in the inbox only (http://source.squeak.org/inbox/). We are eager to push out this release until Christmas. 2019! ;-) So the freeze will hopefully be over on December 24. Maybe earlier.

So, if you update you local Trunk image on Monday morning, it should show "Squeak 5.3beta" instead of:

[https://owa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/owa/][cid:54400999-b3cd-496a-a470-6e9115cac979]


Where do you get a fresh Squeak Trunk image to test?
-> Via https://squeak.org/downloads/
-> or http://files.squeak.org/trunk/ (the latest ones at the bottom)
-> or http://files.squeak.org/5.3beta/ (soon)

Which virtual machine (VM) should you use?
-> The version from Nov 28, 2019: https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/releases/tag/201911282316
-> That version will be already in all 5.3beta bundles that have a VM bundled within.
-> Double check via Help > About Squeak:

[cid:2802a574-970d-4682-8452-7763e764452e]
[https://owa.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/owa/]

What should you test?
-> Both 32-bit and 64-bit versions. If possible on macOS, Windows, and Linux operating systems.
-> Hannes suggested a focus on Squeak's Etoys features. Here are some pointers:
* http://forum.world.st/Etoys-infested-by-deprecation-warnings-td5104215.htm
* http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1183
* http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3815
* http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1174
* http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6601
-> The preference wizard that pops up at the beginning in a fresh image.
-> Bugs listed in Mantis (http://bugs.squeak.org/view_all_bug_page.php) that are still there and really annoying.
-> Grammar/spelling issues in all kinds of texts such as in buttons, menus, help topics, release notes, tutorials (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/792) etc.

Where should you report the bugs?
-> First, make sure you are working on the latest Trunk version! (Squeak > Update)
-> Please post any bugs directly on the squeak-dev list.

What about SistaV1; is it ready?
-> No, it will not be enabled by default in Squeak 5.3. After the release, we plan to immediately switch the regular Trunk from V3 to SistaV1 to do more tests. Please do all tests using the default V3-with-closures bytecode set. Meaning, just use the ones from files.squeak.org as described above.

How can I dive into Etoys; where is it?
-> It is already available in the form of any morph's tile halo. However, the following code snippet will turn your image into an Etoys station:

ReleaseBuilderSqueakland intermediatePrepareForUsers.
Preferences
     disable: #noviceMode;
     enable: #generalizedYellowButtonMenu;
     enable: #showAdvancedNavigatorButtons;
     disable: #eToyFriendly.
TheWorldMainDockingBar showWorldMainDockingBar: true.

[cid:6b547aca-3884-49f5-9c7d-615bced44d66]

Have fun and thank you all for your support! :-)

Best,
Marcel

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