Hi Tim, Hi All,

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 12:57 PM tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

> We have a *lot* of preferences - in my view way too many - and there
> should be at least some discussion about the default values we provide for
> 5.3
> tl;dr - Too many preferences, too badly organised. reduce, make decisions,
> simplify.
>
> I can't imagine I'll hit all of them here but let's try to get something
> done -
>
> Arithmetic
> Should we have these as preferences? How many people understand enough
> about Burnikel-Ziegler recursion splits to make it sensible to easily
> change?
>
> Compiler
> I claim we are long past the point where enabling block argument
> assignments or underscore assignment should be a default. Fix your damn
> code!
>

I agree.  We need the preferences to be able to load old code, but the
preferences should be off by default.


> Are we sticking with the EncoderForV3PlusClosures encoder?
>

My call wi=ould be to move to SistaV1 , but others are understandably more
cautious.

Examples
> These are for the test suite and if possible should be hidden
>
> Files
> The one entry here relates to the encoding of stdio streams so maybe this
> category should be renamed?
>
> Graphics
> Both entries relate to sub-pixel font rendering, so again, rename?
>
> Morphic
> So. Many. Preferences.
> Surely at least the text edit related ones ought to be removed and kept to
> the 'editing' section?
>
> OLPC
> Really?
>
> TextDiff
> Could be better placed; in Tools?
>
> Tools
> 'Use unified message labels' What does this do? Is it worth allowing a
> choice for this sort of thing?
>
> browsing
> Aargh! More options than 31 flavour ice-cream stores! How many are
> actually of value?
> 'ignore style if only bold'?
> 'menu button in tool pane' - no actual senders, for example
>
> colors
> 'Use the new color picker' - is the new color pick not our pick for
> picking colors? If it still isn't the sensible choice more than 10 years
> later, maybe we should dump it completely.
>
> fileout
> are there ever good reasons to not have 24 hr timestamps? For not checking
> for slips?
>

+1.


> general
> Wow, still more flavours of ice-cream.
> 'Read only mode' - no senders. It's so old there is no timestamp.
> 'Use locale' is there any reason to ever not use it?
>
> .... and my brain melted at this point.
>
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Useful random insult:- Couldn't pour water out of a boot with instructions
> on the heel.
>
>
>
>

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best, Eliot
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