[squeak-dev] Dorados (was: Efficient Implementation of theSmalltalk-80 System: what was the hardware?)

Frank Lesser frank-lesser at lesser-software.com
Fri Jul 26 20:02:22 UTC 2019

Real Benchmarks are quite difficult to do & require tools like Intels VTune
( for intel proc. of course ) 
TinyBenchmarks focuses on 2 things - testing speed of send of a single
message ( benchFib ) & measuring bytecodes / sec using calculation of a
"bytecode heavy benchmark ( IMO it was counting number of primes ) 
the 26 benchFib takes ~ 5000 us with Pharo 8 on my laptop same pure C on
msvc 2019 optimized code 32 bit ( taking argument in a register instead of
getting it from stack takes ~1500 us ) 

same C code is 2 times slower compiled in x64 - I can post the C code if
anyone is interested
Today Smalltalk & other dynamic langs reaches pritty close C speed.
I am in business optimizing my VM since decades & JITed languages have the
big advantage that they can measure out the underlying hardware & emitting
quite different code .

different Assembler.

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Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Dorados (was: Efficient Implementation of
theSmalltalk-80 System: what was the hardware?)

Ah, speaking of which, I remember adapting The green book benchmarks to
Squeak while ago. I’ll try to find it (it might be on SqueakMap, possibly.)

-- Yoshiki

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 11:48 AM, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>> On 2019-07-26, at 8:38 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>> Somebody help me with the Dorado math here interpreting Squeak on
JavaScript in a browser on my *phone*.
> I don't think the tinyBenchmarks is really good enough here; run the
proper old benchmark suite.
> tim
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