[squeak-dev] The Inbox: Monticello-eem.709.mcz

Chris Muller asqueaker at gmail.com
Wed Jan 29 22:39:29 UTC 2020

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:04 AM Jakob Reschke <forums.jakob at resfarm.de>

> Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> schrieb am Mi., 29. Jan. 2020, 03:57:
>> It's important this feature does not get inherited by SaveDialog since
>> the functionality could be harmful if used there
> How so? What is bad about wittingly ignoring non-changes during save? You
> called it pollution yourself.

Jakob, your language is confusing because "Ignore" is the other command
there that, yes, would cause them to not be committed.

But what is being added is a 'filter out unchanged methods from the
list...', which, IIUC, would only remove them from the list, making them
invisible, but not "Ignore" them.  So, if used on the Save dialog, would
they be included in the commit?

If so, then for that reason, IMO, it should somehow be restricted to
general OperationsBrowser (i.e., as when clicking on the Changes button).

I tried installing it and looking for the menu additions, but coudln't find
them I only had few minutes...

> It sounds like a VM-Pharo-specific process issue which may have more than
>> one solution.  Or, it may be better implemented as an extension in VMMaker
>> than the base tools.
> The problem will apply to any package that is co-developped by Squeak and
> Pharo guys and that is exchanged via Monticello. It cannot be solved in
> VMMaker because the issue lies in Monticello or rather Pharo's shift of
> tools.
> The other solution I see is to auto-generate missing timestamps from the
> version info in the ancestry whenever the snapshot of a version is
> computed. They will only be as granular as the rate of commits of course.
> And Monticello storing as it does, the operation will not be efficient in
> general because you have to download all the snapshots until you find when
> each method that is missing timestamps was last changed or still had a
> timestamp.
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
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