[squeak-dev] The Trunk: Tools-mt.978.mcz

Jakob Reschke forums.jakob at resfarm.de
Sun Jun 14 07:23:07 UTC 2020


By the way a few weeks ago I tried to copy all the packages that a
particular package indirectly depends on to another Environment, to have
two working copies in one image. Turns out if you just pull in Kernel and
Collections you end up with nearly everything from EToys to Nebraska. If
you are chasing this same entangledness I may recollect the references and
post them.


Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> schrieb am So., 14. Juni 2020, 08:16:

> While the labels are not on the intuitive side -- I agree -- one can
> quickly relate the characters and figure out their meaning. It is not too
> hard:
>
>
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
> Am 14.06.2020 07:57:50 schrieb Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de>:
> Hi Christoph.
>
> > Couldn't we simply write "Collections (defs+exts)" or maybe
> "Collection (super) *exts"?
>
> "(super)" wouldn't include pool dictionaries. I did not want to spoil the
> second and third columns with a too lengthy suffix.
>
> Hi Jakob.
>
> > That aside, I also think that the embellishments could be more
> intuitive, Marcel. :-) What does (defs only) even mean?
>
> Feel free to improve it. ^__^ The current state just reflects the one I
> required to move forward.
>
> Best,
> Marcel
>
> Am 13.06.2020 23:18:10 schrieb Jakob Reschke <forums.jakob at resfarm.de>:
> Thiede, Christoph <Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> schrieb
> am Sa., 13. Juni 2020, 14:58:
>
>> There are already too many tools in the dark outside of Squeak that lack
>> a proper self-description.
>>
> In my opinion the Smalltalk tools are also not self-describing. You
> typically need an introduction to use them, or did you know what those four
> panes in the browser are for from the very beginning? Or how to create a
> new method? Most people new to Smalltalk I know were startled that they
> have to "overwrite" an existing text.
>
> That aside, I also think that the embellishments could be more intuitive,
> Marcel. :-) What does (defs only) even mean? Although that at least has a
> text
> ...
>
>>
>
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