[squeak-dev] DoubleWordArray broken in Pharo

Levente Uzonyi leves at caesar.elte.hu
Sat Mar 28 15:54:56 UTC 2020


Hi Robert,

Please don't mess up the code just because of Pharo. They'll eventually 
fix DoubleWordArray, but that doesn't mean the code will work at all on 
Pharo.

Levente

On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Robert wrote:

> Hey Levente,
>
> In order to get Crypto running in Pharo, I will split the
> HashingPluginSupport code into a separate package, which Pharo will not
> load, but Squeak will.
>
> k, r
>
> On 3/28/20 10:26 AM, Robert wrote:
>>
>> On 3/28/20 10:16 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> No, it's not a VM bug. My analysis I sent to you earlier is correct. It's
>>> that in Pharo DoubleWordArray is a variableWordSubclass instead of a
>>> variableDoubleWordSubclass. The latter is not available in Pharo.
>>> Here's the link to the issue they created based on my analysis you sent
>>> to them: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/5956
>> Alright, I shared this analysis with Pharo's Discord channel. I must
>> have missed the discussion of the #variableDoubleWordSubclass:.
>>
>>> In theory, yes, it would be possible to rewrite SHA-512 and its related
>>> hash functions to avoid using DoubleWordArray, but I see no value in doing
>>> that.
>> The value would be Crypto operational in Pharo. And all that follows
>> from that (ParrotTalk, SSL, SSH, Signal, Raven). Is it possible for you
>> to make these changes, please? I see this as more likely than Pharo
>> accommodating #variableDoubleWordSubclass:. And other Smalltalks...
>>
>> k, r
>>
>>> Pharo simply failed to properly integrate DoubleWordArray. It's there but
>>> it's disfunctional. Just wait until they fix it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Levente
>>>
>>> P.S.: This is pretty much off topic on squeak-dev.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2020, Robert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Levente,
>>>>
>>>> I dug a little deeper into the Pharo issue with Cryptography and it IS a VM issue, I think. Primitive 61 is failing in DoubleWordArray>>#at:put:. Pharo seems totally uninterested in fixing this so I wanted to ask you, is there any way Cryptography can avoid reliance on DoubleWordArray?
>>>>
>>>> Kindly,
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
> -- 
> Kindly,
> Robert
>
>
>


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