Hi timothy,

the snippet from Jakob should give you the updated Tonel such that you can
load Roassal and its dependencies, at least syntax/format-wise. I would
recommend using Metacello for loading it first, as it will install all
dependencies. If you use my fork, you will get the "repaired" Geometry
package. Afterwards, you can use the GitBrowser for proper development by
cloning my Roassal fork and then checking out the code. Note that you will
hit a great number of missing dependencies, which you need to all "Proceed"
and potentially also fix manually. Some code may not be properly
overridden, so be sure to check the -Squeak packages for missing overrides
if you hit an error in a specific method. I'm hoping to get around to
investigate the proper Baseline load order sometime in the next few days
(especially also for my own curiosity...).

Concerning next steps for porting: you can base your work off of my fork
(for example simply fork it again and if you like, place pull requests). Or
alternatively, take a different route to porting, potentially keeping
Athens, and base your own work on the Roassal main repo.

I'll provide a quick description of the things in my fork in the following.
There are three packages with adaptations for Squeak (of which the naming
can be improved):
- Roassal3-Pharo-Squeak: some classes from the Pharo Base System that
Roassal assumes exist. For a proper port, I would want to get rid of this
entirely and instead introduce adapter where necessary. This has to be
loaded first as Roassal3 (core) wants to extend these classes, too.
- Roassal3-Squeak: this is the proper port, mostly the Balloon code for
rendering and for our Morph.
- Roassal3-Shapes-Squeak: the -Shapes package uses some functions from the
font system. We need to override these. We can't put these in our other
-Squeak package because we first need the other classes to be loaded.

Important todo items that I can currently see:
- only the basic packages work (I tested Charts in particular); others have
different dependencies into the Pharo system (e.g. UML)
- quality and performance are lacking when compared to the Cairo/Athens
version
- fonts do not scale currently

Best,
Tom

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 8:41 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks.
>
> On a brand new squeak6.0 alpha (easily spun up thanks to the
> squeak-launcher (:)
> git tools, etc installed via the preference wizard.
> BaselineOftonel is in Monticello browser.
>
> I run
>
> repository: 'github://squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel:squeak';
> baseline: 'Tonel';
> get; load.
>
> works fine.
>
> Open the Git browser,
>
> Add Roassal3 project.
>
> RHClick..Add remote copy-n-paste in
> <https://github.com/gettimothy/hello-world.git>
> https://github.com/tom95/Roassal3
>
>
> MNU Text(Object) does not understand #includesSubstring:
>
> what am I missing?
>
> thx
>
>
>
> The MNU again on
> ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 13:15:11 -0400 *Jakob Reschke
> <forums.jakob at resfarm.de <forums.jakob at resfarm.de>>* wrote ----
>
> Hi,
>
> Tom provided the fix and the pull request, and I integrated it. So
> yes, we work together.
>
> Now to update an existing installation I suppose one should use Metacello:
>
> Metacello new
> repository: 'github://squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel:squeak';
> baseline: 'Tonel';
> get; load.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
>
> Am Sa., 3. Okt. 2020 um 18:26 Uhr schrieb gettimothy <gettimothy at zoho.com>:
>
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your work.
> >
> > Is this in support of Jakob's pull request? i.e. are you two working
> together?
> >
> > How should I proceed from here? Pull from your repo?
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> > ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:49:20 -0400 Tom Beckmann <
> tomjonabc at gmail.com> wrote ----
> >
> > Hi timothy,
> > (you'll probably be seeing this mail twice, my first attempt bounced on
> the ML because my mail address had changed, sorry!)
> >
> > after I read yours and Eliot's conversation, I went to try loading
> Roassal3 to see how our Tonel support is doing. I stumbled over three
> errors:
> > - The error you just mentioned [1]
> > - Monticello was not strict enough with matching MCReader capabilities
> [2]
> > - The Geometry package used in Roassal uses Unicode symbols in their
> code, which is not supported in Squeak [3]
> >
> > I then went ahead and tried to adapt things a little and got the result
> you can see in the attachment. The experiment is found here [4]. I decided
> to not load Athena at all and started putting together an alternative
> Balloon backend instead (I am aware that Athena has a Balloon backend as
> well, the one I found consisted mostly of stubs, however). The resulting
> quality does not compare with Cairo, of course, but the basics were up and
> running very quickly.
> >
> > In theory, this should give you the working installation, however,
> packages load out-of-order because I did not manage to the baseline quite
> right just yet:
> >
> > Metacello new
> > baseline: 'Roassal3';
> > repository: 'github://tom95/Roassal3';
> > load.
> >
> > Best,
> > Tom
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel/pull/5
> > [2]
> http://forum.world.st/The-Inbox-Monticello-tobe-729-mcz-td5122924.html
> > [3]
> https://github.com/tom95/Geometry/commit/5e7e1fa89bbd699baf41066e33d6242730d4766c
> > [4] https://github.com/tom95/Roassal3
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:38 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
> squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > If you are interested, I will be figuring out Pillar with this github
> stuff and getting the beginnings of some books up on squeakbooks.org*
> >
> > I will be documenting these steps in a booklet.
> >
> > This squot/git stuff will both be used and the subject of that booklet.
> >
> > good stuff.
> >
> > thanks for your work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Help Browser team...I am confident that an XTreams-Parsing grammar
> /actor pair can be written to auto-generate HelpBrowser books from the
> Pillar to the Help Browser.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:32:02 -0400 Jakob Reschke <
> forums.jakob at resfarm.de> wrote ----
> >
> > I am in the middle of integrating a pull request to solve this bug in
> > squeak-tonel. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Dev-f45488.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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