Hi Dave,

Great!

Could you build a Docker image and publish it for macOS users
who are restricted 32 bit VM by Apple also to try it easily?

--
sumim

2020-10-04 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:

> Thank you Trygve,
>
> I confirm also that the image runs very well on my Ubuntu Linux laptop
> with a VM compiled per http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6354.
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 07:56:43PM +0900, masato sumi wrote:
> > Dear Trygve,
> >
> > I confirmed that I could launch the Loke/BabyIDE image with the included
> > SqueakVM for Windows (8.1 and 10)
> > and I could also launch it in a web browser by using the SqueakJS VM (
> > https://squeak.js.org/run ).
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > --
> > sumim
> >
> > 2020-10-03 15:48 Trygve Reenskaug <trygver at ifi.uio.no>:
> >
> > > Dear Sumim,
> > > Thank you for your kind words.
> > >
> > > The latest version of Loke/BabyIDE written on Squeak3.10.2 is at
> > > https://data.mendeley.com/datasets/5xxgzv7fsp/1
> > > The image is my program repository. It includes some examples of DCI
> > > programming, Ellen's Personal Programming IDE, Squeak Reverse
> Engineering
> > > (SRE), and more.
> > >
> > > Best
> > > --Trygve
> > >
> > > On 2020-10-02 20:14, masato sumi wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Trygve,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your very long term contribution and efforts.
> > >
> > > I'm very sorry that I couldn't help you at all now.
> > >
> > > I'm afraid, but could you please make your latest version of
> Loke/BabyIDE
> > > written on Squeak3.10.2 available for future generations of researchers
> > > and/or followers?
> > >
> > > Anyway, I think your ideas and thoughts should be passed on to future
> > > generations as faithfully as we can possible, and I myself will try to
> make
> > > sure that.
> > >
> > > Thank you so much and goodbye.
> > > Please take care of yourself.
> > >
> > > --
> > > sumim
> > >
> > > 2020-10-03 0:54 Trygve Reenskaug <trygver at ifi.uio.no>:
> > >
> > >> Dear all,
> > >> I need to use many words to explore why I can't understand current
> Squeak
> > >> code. I believe the reason is a profound one, and I hope some of you
> have
> > >> the patience to read about it.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for your responses to my 'A Sad Day'-message. One response
> said
> > >>  "*But please don't give up as an inventor of MVC, which has
> simplified
> > >> writing software for all of us.*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> *We need new ideas to stabilize Smalltalk." *As to MVC, it was
> received
> > >> with acclamation when I first presented it at PARC in 1978, and people
> > >> suggested I should make it the theme of my article in the special
> Smalltalk
> > >> issue of Byte. I couldn't understand it; MVC was so simple and
> obvious that
> > >> is was not worth writing about it. Nevertheless, people seem to have
> > >> problems understanding MVC. It took me a long time before I gleaned
> what
> > >> was going on. The explanation is a deep one, rooted in our different
> mental
> > >> paradigms.
> > >>
> > >> From around 1970, I was working on Prokon, a distributed system for
> > >> managers in the shipbuilding industry:
> > >>
> > >>  Every manager has their own computer that they use for augmenting
> their
> > >> mind. The manager understands their software and ideally writes it
> > >> themselves. Managers delegate conversations with other managers to
> their
> > >> computer's M-to-M network. (Marked with a heavy black line in the
> figure).
> > >> I chose "distributed planning with central control" as my example
> project.
> > >> Each manager creates a plan for their department, using apps suited to
> > >> their particular needs. A **distributed algorithm** ensures
> consistency
> > >> across departments.
> > >>
> > >> I came to PARC in 1978 and could immediately relate to the Smalltalk
> > >> image with its universe of collaborating objects. Alan's definition of
> > >> object-orientation fitted my Prokon model: "Thus its semantics are a
> bit
> > >> like having thousands and thousands of computers all hooked together
> by a
> > >> very fast network."
> > >>
> > >> MVC prescribes a network of communicating objects. Any object can fill
> > >> one or more positions in the network as long as it has the required
> > >> behavior; their classes are irrelevant. It's so simple that it's not
> worth
> > >> writing about it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ====================
> > >>
> > >> The work on this post was interrupted at this point by an unexpected
> week
> > >> in hospital. It gave me quiet days of pondering the futility of what
> I am
> > >> doing and I will be terminating my memberships in the Pharo and Squeak
> > >> mailing lists. I have also deleted most of the old draft of this
> message
> > >> and will quickly conclude with two observations:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>    1.
> > >>    The Smalltalk image is a universe of communicating objects. I call
> it
> > >>    an object computer. It can be seen as the model of an entirely new
> kind of
> > >>    computer, a model on a level closer to the human mind than the von
> Neumann
> > >>    model of 1948. The new model is communication-centric and should
> supersede
> > >>    the ubiquitous CPU-centric model as soon as possible. Working out
> the
> > >>    details of this idea could make an exciting and disruptive Ph.D.
> thesis.
> > >>    2.
> > >>    Smalltalk is called a programming language. It is a curious one,
> very
> > >>    different from well-known languages like Java with their syntax and
> > >>    semantics. Smalltalk, as a programming language, does not have the
> concept
> > >>    of a program. Smalltalk, as a class-oriented language, does not
> have syntax
> > >>    for the declaration of a class. Smalltalk, as an object-oriented
> language,
> > >>    can't describe how objects collaborate to achieve a goal. You
> appear to be
> > >>    happy with this state of affairs, at least, I see no sign of
> anybody
> > >>    wanting to move on from the unfinished Smalltalk language to a
> mature
> > >>    development environment. I do not find it satisfactory and it is
> not
> > >>    acceptable to the intended managers populating the distributed
> system shown
> > >>    in the first picture. Consequently, I have done something about it
> as
> > >>    described in my SoSym article "*Personal Programming and the Object
> > >>    Computer.*" I am tired of being alone in my endeavors and this ends
> > >>    my work with Squeak and other Smalltalks. I wish you health and
> happiness
> > >>    wherever you happen to be.
> > >>
> > >> Trygve
> > >> Personal programming and the object computer
> > >> https://doi.org/10.1007/s10270-019-00768-3
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> *The essence of object orientation is that objects collaborate  to
> > >> achieve a goal. *
> > >> Trygve Reenskaug      mailto: trygver at ifi.uio.no <%
> 20trygver at ifi.uio.no>
> > >> Morgedalsvn. 5A       http://folk.uio.no/trygver/
> > >> N-0378 Oslo             http://fullOO.info
> > >> Norway                     Tel: (+47) 468 58 625
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > *The essence of object orientation is that objects collaborate  to
> achieve
> > > a goal. *
> > > Trygve Reenskaug      mailto: trygver at ifi.uio.no <%
> 20trygver at ifi.uio.no>
> > > Morgedalsvn. 5A       http://folk.uio.no/trygver/
> > > N-0378 Oslo             http://fullOO.info
> > > Norway                     Tel: (+47) 468 58 625
> > >
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>
>

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