Hi timothy,

just as a quick update: the Baseline is now finally correct (I hadn't
realized that my base package cannot share a prefix with the main package
or else all its classes will be removed again when the main package loads).
So, if you execute the following in a Squeak-trunk image and click
"Proceed" a good number of times when you're prompted about missing
classes, hopefully you'll be greeted with a chart:

Metacello new
    baseline: 'Roassal3';
    repository: 'github://tom95/Roassal3';
    load.

RSChartExample new example01Markers open.


A note to my earlier description of the changes: I dropped the
Roassal3-Shapes-Squeak
package and instead put the changes directly in the Roassal3-Shapes package
in a way that they remain compatible with Pharo.

Best,
Tom

On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 11:40 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:

> Tom thank you.
>
> I willhit it tomorrow!
>
> I am really looking forward to this port.
>
> Cheers.
>
> T
>
>
> ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 17:26:32 -0400 *tomjonabc at gmail.com
> <tomjonabc at gmail.com> *wrote ----
>
> Hi,
>
> Metacello new
>     baseline: 'Roassal3';
>     repository: 'github://tom95/Roassal3';
>     load.
>
> will get you started, then you will have to handle the various errors that
> arise from the incorrect load order. Repeating the whole command once it's
> done will allow you to recover from some load errors, too.
>
> Best,
> Tom
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 10:21 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
> squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Tom
>
> Thank you for the detailed reply.
>
> Re:"I would recommend using Metacello for loading it first, as it will
> install all dependencies. "
>
> Where do I find that Metaccello? I assume I will need a
> ConfigurationOfRoassal3 frome somewhere.
>
> Regarding the fork, I think yours us the way to go until I get the lay of
> the land.
> I haven't even wirked through roassak examples on pharo yet.
>
> When we get smooth installation abd Eliot has time to putter with it, the
> community can decide on the Athens thing.
>
> Thanks again
>
>
>
>
> ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 15:57:43 -0400 *tomjonabc at gmail.com
> <tomjonabc at gmail.com> * wrote ----
>
> Hi timothy,
>
> the snippet from Jakob should give you the updated Tonel such that you can
> load Roassal and its dependencies, at least syntax/format-wise. I would
> recommend using Metacello for loading it first, as it will install all
> dependencies. If you use my fork, you will get the "repaired" Geometry
> package. Afterwards, you can use the GitBrowser for proper development by
> cloning my Roassal fork and then checking out the code. Note that you will
> hit a great number of missing dependencies, which you need to all "Proceed"
> and potentially also fix manually. Some code may not be properly
> overridden, so be sure to check the -Squeak packages for missing overrides
> if you hit an error in a specific method. I'm hoping to get around to
> investigate the proper Baseline load order sometime in the next few days
> (especially also for my own curiosity...).
>
> Concerning next steps for porting: you can base your work off of my fork
> (for example simply fork it again and if you like, place pull requests). Or
> alternatively, take a different route to porting, potentially keeping
> Athens, and base your own work on the Roassal main repo.
>
> I'll provide a quick description of the things in my fork in the
> following. There are three packages with adaptations for Squeak (of which
> the naming can be improved):
> - Roassal3-Pharo-Squeak: some classes from the Pharo Base System that
> Roassal assumes exist. For a proper port, I would want to get rid of this
> entirely and instead introduce adapter where necessary. This has to be
> loaded first as Roassal3 (core) wants to extend these classes, too.
> - Roassal3-Squeak: this is the proper port, mostly the Balloon code for
> rendering and for our Morph.
> - Roassal3-Shapes-Squeak: the -Shapes package uses some functions from the
> font system. We need to override these. We can't put these in our other
> -Squeak package because we first need the other classes to be loaded.
>
> Important todo items that I can currently see:
> - only the basic packages work (I tested Charts in particular); others
> have different dependencies into the Pharo system (e.g. UML)
> - quality and performance are lacking when compared to the Cairo/Athens
> version
> - fonts do not scale currently
>
> Best,
> Tom
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 8:41 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
> squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks.
>
> On a brand new squeak6.0 alpha (easily spun up thanks to the
> squeak-launcher (:)
> git tools, etc installed via the preference wizard.
> BaselineOftonel is in Monticello browser.
>
> I run
>
> repository: 'github://squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel:squeak';
> baseline: 'Tonel';
> get; load.
>
> works fine.
>
> Open the Git browser,
>
> Add Roassal3 project.
>
> RHClick..Add remote copy-n-paste in
> <https://github.com/gettimothy/hello-world.git>
> https://github.com/tom95/Roassal3
>
>
> MNU Text(Object) does not understand #includesSubstring:
>
> what am I missing?
>
> thx
>
>
>
> The MNU again on
> ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 13:15:11 -0400 *Jakob Reschke
> <forums.jakob at resfarm.de <forums.jakob at resfarm.de>>* wrote ----
>
> Hi,
>
> Tom provided the fix and the pull request, and I integrated it. So
> yes, we work together.
>
> Now to update an existing installation I suppose one should use Metacello:
>
> Metacello new
> repository: 'github://squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel:squeak';
> baseline: 'Tonel';
> get; load.
>
> Kind regards,
> Jakob
>
> Am Sa., 3. Okt. 2020 um 18:26 Uhr schrieb gettimothy <gettimothy at zoho.com>:
>
> >
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your work.
> >
> > Is this in support of Jakob's pull request? i.e. are you two working
> together?
> >
> > How should I proceed from here? Pull from your repo?
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > t
> >
> >
> > ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:49:20 -0400 Tom Beckmann <
> tomjonabc at gmail.com> wrote ----
> >
> > Hi timothy,
> > (you'll probably be seeing this mail twice, my first attempt bounced on
> the ML because my mail address had changed, sorry!)
> >
> > after I read yours and Eliot's conversation, I went to try loading
> Roassal3 to see how our Tonel support is doing. I stumbled over three
> errors:
> > - The error you just mentioned [1]
> > - Monticello was not strict enough with matching MCReader capabilities
> [2]
> > - The Geometry package used in Roassal uses Unicode symbols in their
> code, which is not supported in Squeak [3]
> >
> > I then went ahead and tried to adapt things a little and got the result
> you can see in the attachment. The experiment is found here [4]. I decided
> to not load Athena at all and started putting together an alternative
> Balloon backend instead (I am aware that Athena has a Balloon backend as
> well, the one I found consisted mostly of stubs, however). The resulting
> quality does not compare with Cairo, of course, but the basics were up and
> running very quickly.
> >
> > In theory, this should give you the working installation, however,
> packages load out-of-order because I did not manage to the baseline quite
> right just yet:
> >
> > Metacello new
> > baseline: 'Roassal3';
> > repository: 'github://tom95/Roassal3';
> > load.
> >
> > Best,
> > Tom
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/squeak-smalltalk/squeak-tonel/pull/5
> > [2]
> http://forum.world.st/The-Inbox-Monticello-tobe-729-mcz-td5122924.html
> > [3]
> https://github.com/tom95/Geometry/commit/5e7e1fa89bbd699baf41066e33d6242730d4766c
> > [4] https://github.com/tom95/Roassal3
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 4:38 PM gettimothy via Squeak-dev <
> squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
> > If you are interested, I will be figuring out Pillar with this github
> stuff and getting the beginnings of some books up on squeakbooks.org*
> >
> > I will be documenting these steps in a booklet.
> >
> > This squot/git stuff will both be used and the subject of that booklet.
> >
> > good stuff.
> >
> > thanks for your work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *Help Browser team...I am confident that an XTreams-Parsing grammar
> /actor pair can be written to auto-generate HelpBrowser books from the
> Pillar to the Help Browser.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---- On Sat, 03 Oct 2020 10:32:02 -0400 Jakob Reschke <
> forums.jakob at resfarm.de> wrote ----
> >
> > I am in the middle of integrating a pull request to solve this bug in
> > squeak-tonel. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Squeak-Dev-f45488.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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