[squeak-dev] find class is broken...

karl ramberg karlramberg at gmail.com
Sun Sep 20 07:37:17 UTC 2020


Relevant xkce
https://xkcd.com/1172/

Best,
Karl

On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 2:53 AM tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:

> UI preferences are so personal it makes my head spin. We have almost had
> global nuclear wars over arguments about text editor choices, let alone
> actually interesting UI aspects.
>
> > On 2020-09-19, at 4:47 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  For example, imagine the power of having EVERY PIXEL on your desktop
> being ready for ANY INPUT, regardless of window z-ordering, simply by
> moving pointer there and pressing a mouse or keyboard button.
> >
>
> Here you see, we differ. It's likely partly due to growing up using RISC
> OS and the original ST-80 UI (similar but not the same, which makes for
> 'interesting' habit/reflexes) where basically the keyboard focus was set by
> clicking in a text field and mouse focus what where ever the cursor sat.
> RISC OS permits windows to be active (for mouse or keyboard) at any point
> in the Z stack but you do still have to click in that text field. Very-old
> ST-80 MVC was mouse focus within the active window and IIRC keyboard focus
> in the text view under the mouse.
>
> I *think* I remember work at PPS to actually formalise some idea of a text
> focus for ObjectWorks 4.0 - but that's so long ago who knows if I'm right.
> The thing that would drive me nuts  - and I have experience of trying to
> use a workstation set up that way in the past - is the keyboard focus
> sliding around as the mouse drifts across because of the cable being stiff
> or pulled by gravity etc. Yes, ok, a bluetooth mouse wouldn't usually do
> that but half the time they don't do *anything* right.
>
> Similarly I really, really, dislike the 'menu button selects a list item'
> thing that we currently have (and that Apple do, too) because I want the
> damn thing I selected to be selected until I actually select something
> else. Grrrrr. Damn; this is all reminding me how much I miss arguing UI
> with Jef Raskin.
>
>
> tim
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