On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 2:52 PM Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 5:42 AM Thiede, Christoph <
> Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
>
>> There are so many small and big projects on GitHub that are not yet
>> listed on squeak.org:
>>
>> https://github.com/search?l=Smalltalk&p=1&q=squeak&type=Repositories
>>
>> Just for example Squot, smalltalkCI, Autocompletion, ...
>>
> The projects to "showcase" on the Projects page should be ones that are
> meaningful _beyond_ Squeak.  Things people outside of Squeak might care
> about, and not IDE tools.
>

Amen.  +1,000,000.  This is the point.

I had a long conversation with a good friend and SMalltalker the other day
who made the point that the success of Python, et al, is crucially because
they can get things done, not because they are an end in themselves.  We as
a community know the beauty of Smalltalk and can be happy and fulfilled in
working on the system itself.  But we will never grow the community until
we can solve real-world problems, until people in the outside world come
knocking with problems they need solving.  It is the ability to solve
real-world problems that has relevance to someone visiting from outside of
the community.  We have to stop being so hermetic if we want to grow and
prosper.  Articulating that we *can* fix real world problems (as well as
all the coll things we can do inside) is the point of the Applications tab.

And there's nothing threatening about this.  Smalltalk is one of the *most
powerful* solvers of real-world problems, as evinced by the application of
VisualWorks in areas such as all mobile phone chip construction,
scheduling 60% of world container traffic, etfc, etc, etc.

So can we please emphasise our problem-solving abilities to those outside
the community with an Applications tab?

And also I would like to list several smaller tools and frameworks
>> somewhere that, despite their small size, might be very interesting for
>> your personal Squeak workflow: Autocompletion,
>> MessageSendRecorder, WindowAcrobatics, and so many others (just telling
>> some names from my individual filter bubble).
>>
> -1.  The Projects page is for outside readers' interest -- e.g. "reasons
> to get into Squeak".  Small tools like these would bog it down, IMO.
>
> Regards,
>   Chris
>
>

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best, Eliot
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