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Hi David,

thanks again for the reply!

> There is no point in depending on 'Metacello new' to automatically pull this into the image.

Why don't you think so? This is guaranteed behavior since Squeak 5.3 as already stated by Marcel. It's an explicit feature.

> Regardig the default path, the reason I made this remark, was because I clicked "Yes" without reading the dialog all too well, I thought it was asking whether I agreed with the default path.

Yeah, I'm all with you in this one! I have reworked that dialog in https://github.com/hpi-swa/squeak-history/pull/14.

> Anyway I'm now testing/using the Mail Editor in Squeak.

> I think that SMTP can be used without authentication in its simplest form.

Whoops, thanks for the report! Authentication and spelling slip should both be fixed in System-ct.1240 (inbox, you can check it out via Squeak Inbox Talk :D). Your testing would be appreciated because I don't have an authentication-free SMTP server at hand, so I could not try this out myself ...

Best,
Christoph

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> Yes you are right, I tested now without first running
> 
> Installer ensureRecentMetacello
> 
> and it automatically first installs Metacello (via Metacello new).
> 
> I tested now on Solaris 11.4 (with GNOME 3) as well
> 
> Squeak6.0alpha
> latest update: #20587
> Current Change Set: HomeProject
> Image format 68021 (64 bit)
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> Open Smalltalk Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives VMMaker.oscog-eem.2967]
> 
> There are a few differences between Solaris 11.3 (GNOME 2) and 11.4 (GNOME 3),
> but as expected in this particular case it does not seem to matter.
> 
> As I said I like the package and you (and Marcel Taeumel and everybody else
> involved in this) did a great job.
> 
> HOWEVER ... I think the documentation should state that you have to install
> Metacello as a prerequisite.
> 
> There is no point in depending on 'Metacello new' to automatically pull this
> into the image.
> 
> Perhaps in the global top menu "Do" (for the common request strings),
> there should be a menu item for
> 
> Installer ensureRecentMetacello
> 
> So that a newbie user (like me) can go to the top menu and see,
> under "Do" an easy way to install Metacello.
> 
> This is a just general remark with respect to Metacello.
> 
> Regardig the default path, the reason I made this remark,
> was because I clicked "Yes" without reading the dialog all too well,
> I thought it was asking whether I agreed with the default path.
> 
> But in fact the current dialog is asking whether you want to CHANGE the path.
> 
> Anyway I'm now testing/using the Mail Editor in Squeak.
> 
> I'm using in Solaris
> 
> $ pkg list -s mutt
> NAME (PUBLISHER) SUMMARY
> mail/mutt (solaris) The Mutt E-Mail Client
> 
> mutt (from the command line) works with my smtp server.
> 
> When I enter in Squeak the smtp settings it is asking for authentication:
> 
> What is your server passwort?
> 
> Note that there is a typo in that string. passwort is German I guess,
> in English the spelling is password with a 'd' as in Dutch (paswoord).
> 
> Also I think that SMTP can be used without authentication in its simplest form.
> 
> If I cancel the password dialog I get an error
> 
> 14 July 2021 7:25:06.210257 pm
> 
> VM: unix - Smalltalk
> Image: Squeak6.0alpha [latest update: #20587]
> 
> - --- The full stack ---
> MailSender class(Object)>>error:
> MailSender class>>userPassword
> MailComposition>>smtpPassword
> MailComposition>>doSendMail
> [] in [] in MailComposition>>sendMail
> FullBlockClosure(BlockClosure)>>on:do:
> [] in MailComposition>>sendMail
> [] in FullBlockClosure(BlockClosure)>>newProcess
> 
> So I didn't send so far smtp from within Squeak.
> 
> My report is more about reading inboxdevtalk so far, which seems to work.
> 
> I like the package and seems to work well.
> 
> David Stes
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