Hi Christoph,

Thanks for the fast fix. Filtering works now.

I only saw your mail now because refreshing did not work for me. I refreshed several times. It did pick up one message with the subject 'Documenting the system' but not yours and David’s about Squeak Inbox Talk.

When I clicked on Beta Version > clear all caches another debugger opened with the message 'The author-key normalization is limited. Please run #deriveRulesForAuthorKeyNormalization.‘

I wonder what that is and why that happens? I am not sure how best to proceed.

Cheers,
Bernhard

17 July 2021 9:16:28.570988 pm

VM: Mac OS - Smalltalk
Image: Squeak6.0alpha [latest update: #20587]

SecurityManager state:
Restricted: false
FileAccess: true
SocketAccess: true
Working Dir /Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-trunk
Trusted Dir /Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-trunk/secure
Untrusted Dir /Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-trunk/My Squeak

SqhMailmanAggregator(Object)>>notify:
Receiver: a SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:
aString: 'The author-key normalization is limited. Please run #deriveRulesForAu...etc...
Receiver's instance variables:
mailingLists: #('squeak-dev' 'beginners' 'vm-dev' 'vm-beginners' 'etoys-dev' 's...etc...
showProgress: nil
logOnTranscript: nil
authorInitials: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyNormalization: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyClarification: nil
rulesForAuthorFullNameClarification: nil
dateFilter: nil

[] in SqhMailmanAggregator>>messagesNormalizedDo:
Receiver: a SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:
workBlock: [closure] in SqhMailmanAggregator>>resetCacheForMailMessages
Receiver's instance variables:
mailingLists: #('squeak-dev' 'beginners' 'vm-dev' 'vm-beginners' 'etoys-dev' 's...etc...
showProgress: nil
logOnTranscript: nil
authorInitials: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyNormalization: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyClarification: nil
rulesForAuthorFullNameClarification: nil
dateFilter: nil

Dictionary(Collection)>>ifEmpty:
Receiver: a Dictionary()
Arguments and temporary variables:
aBlock: [closure] in SqhMailmanAggregator>>messagesNormalizedDo:
Receiver's instance variables:
tally: 0
array: #(nil nil nil nil nil)

SqhMailmanAggregator>>messagesNormalizedDo:
Receiver: a SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:
workBlock: [closure] in SqhMailmanAggregator>>resetCacheForMailMessages
Receiver's instance variables:
mailingLists: #('squeak-dev' 'beginners' 'vm-dev' 'vm-beginners' 'etoys-dev' 's...etc...
showProgress: nil
logOnTranscript: nil
authorInitials: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyNormalization: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyClarification: nil
rulesForAuthorFullNameClarification: nil
dateFilter: nil

SqhMailmanAggregator>>resetCacheForMailMessages
Receiver: a SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:
wrappers: a Dictionary()
c: DemoPerson
messages: nil
Receiver's instance variables:
mailingLists: #('squeak-dev' 'beginners' 'vm-dev' 'vm-beginners' 'etoys-dev' 's...etc...
showProgress: nil
logOnTranscript: nil
authorInitials: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyNormalization: nil
rulesForAuthorKeyClarification: nil
rulesForAuthorFullNameClarification: nil
dateFilter: nil

SqhMailmanAggregator class>>resetCacheForMailMessages
Receiver: SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
superclass: Object
methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#aggregateAuthorKeys->(SqhMailmanAggregator>>#ag...etc...
format: 65544
instanceVariables: #('mailingLists' 'showProgress' 'logOnTranscript' 'authorIni...etc...
organization: ('queries' aggregateAuthorKeys aggregateAuthors aggregateMailAddresses...etc...
subclasses: nil
name: #SqhMailmanAggregator
classPool: a Dictionary(#ArchivePath->'/Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-t...etc...
sharedPools: nil
environment: Smalltalk
category: #'SqueakHistory-MailingLists'

SqhMailmanAggregator class>>messages
Receiver: SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
superclass: Object
methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#aggregateAuthorKeys->(SqhMailmanAggregator>>#ag...etc...
format: 65544
instanceVariables: #('mailingLists' 'showProgress' 'logOnTranscript' 'authorIni...etc...
organization: ('queries' aggregateAuthorKeys aggregateAuthors aggregateMailAddresses...etc...
subclasses: nil
name: #SqhMailmanAggregator
classPool: a Dictionary(#ArchivePath->'/Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-t...etc...
sharedPools: nil
environment: Smalltalk
category: #'SqueakHistory-MailingLists'

SqhMailmanAggregator class>>resetCacheForMailInReplyTo
Receiver: SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:
helperCache: nil
Receiver's instance variables:
superclass: Object
methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#aggregateAuthorKeys->(SqhMailmanAggregator>>#ag...etc...
format: 65544
instanceVariables: #('mailingLists' 'showProgress' 'logOnTranscript' 'authorIni...etc...
organization: ('queries' aggregateAuthorKeys aggregateAuthors aggregateMailAddresses...etc...
subclasses: nil
name: #SqhMailmanAggregator
classPool: a Dictionary(#ArchivePath->'/Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-t...etc...
sharedPools: nil
environment: Smalltalk
category: #'SqueakHistory-MailingLists'

SqhMailmanAggregator class>>conversations
Receiver: SqhMailmanAggregator
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
superclass: Object
methodDict: a MethodDictionary(#aggregateAuthorKeys->(SqhMailmanAggregator>>#ag...etc...
format: 65544
instanceVariables: #('mailingLists' 'showProgress' 'logOnTranscript' 'authorIni...etc...
organization: ('queries' aggregateAuthorKeys aggregateAuthors aggregateMailAddresses...etc...
subclasses: nil
name: #SqhMailmanAggregator
classPool: a Dictionary(#ArchivePath->'/Users/bernhard/Entwicklung/Squeak/new-t...etc...
sharedPools: nil
environment: Smalltalk
category: #'SqueakHistory-MailingLists'

TalkMailConversation>>mails
Receiver: TalkMailConversation on: MailWrapper<CAEzdQ-ebWnvE9+f...>
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
wrapper: MailWrapper<CAEzdQ-ebWnvE9+f...>

TalkConversation>>messages
Receiver: a TalkConversation ('[squeak-dev] Documenting the system')
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
mailConversation: TalkMailConversation on: MailWrapper<CAEzdQ-ebWnvE9+f...>

TalkConversation>>latestDate
Receiver: a TalkConversation ('[squeak-dev] Documenting the system')
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
mailConversation: TalkMailConversation on: MailWrapper<CAEzdQ-ebWnvE9+f...>

[] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
Receiver: a TalkInboxBrowser
Arguments and temporary variables:
conversation: a TalkConversation ('[squeak-dev] Documenting the system')
Receiver's instance variables:
dependents: a DependentsArray(a PluggableSystemWindow<Squeak Inbox Talk - squea...etc...
backgroundWorkers: a WeakValueDictionary(#contents->nil #conversations->a Process...etc...
backgroundWorkerUpdateMessages: a SharedQueue(1)
inbox: a TalkInbox<squeak-dev>
searchModel: a TalkTextSearchModel
selectedConversation: nil
allConversations: #()
numberOfConversations: nil
conversations: an OrderedCollection()
menuFilter: a TalkFilterSet
contents: a Text for 'Welcome to Squeak Inbox Talk!

In the last 90 days, the s...etc...

[] in [] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
Receiver: a TalkInboxBrowser
Arguments and temporary variables:
columnBlock: [closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
columnIndex: 1
conversation: a TalkConversation ('[squeak-dev] Documenting the system')
Receiver's instance variables:
dependents: a DependentsArray(a PluggableSystemWindow<Squeak Inbox Talk - squea...etc...
backgroundWorkers: a WeakValueDictionary(#contents->nil #conversations->a Process...etc...
backgroundWorkerUpdateMessages: a SharedQueue(1)
inbox: a TalkInbox<squeak-dev>
searchModel: a TalkTextSearchModel
selectedConversation: nil
allConversations: #()
numberOfConversations: nil
conversations: an OrderedCollection()
menuFilter: a TalkFilterSet
contents: a Text for 'Welcome to Squeak Inbox Talk!

In the last 90 days, the s...etc...

OrderedCollection>>collect:
Receiver: an OrderedCollection(a TalkConversation ('[squeak-dev] Documenting the system') a TalkConversation...etc...
Arguments and temporary variables:
aBlock: [closure] in [] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
newCollection: an OrderedCollection()
index: 615
Receiver's instance variables:
array: {nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil . nil ....etc...
firstIndex: 615
lastIndex: 1275

[] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
Receiver: a TalkInboxBrowser
Arguments and temporary variables:
columnBlock: [closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
columnIndex: 1
Receiver's instance variables:
dependents: a DependentsArray(a PluggableSystemWindow<Squeak Inbox Talk - squea...etc...
backgroundWorkers: a WeakValueDictionary(#contents->nil #conversations->a Process...etc...
backgroundWorkerUpdateMessages: a SharedQueue(1)
inbox: a TalkInbox<squeak-dev>
searchModel: a TalkTextSearchModel
selectedConversation: nil
allConversations: #()
numberOfConversations: nil
conversations: an OrderedCollection()
menuFilter: a TalkFilterSet
contents: a Text for 'Welcome to Squeak Inbox Talk!

In the last 90 days, the s...etc...

Array(SequenceableCollection)>>withIndexCollect:
Receiver: {[closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns . [closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns...etc...
Arguments and temporary variables:
elementAndIndexBlock: [closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
result: #(nil nil nil)
index: 1
indexLimiT: 3
Receiver's instance variables:
{[closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns . [closure] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns...etc...

TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
Receiver: a TalkInboxBrowser
Arguments and temporary variables:

Receiver's instance variables:
dependents: a DependentsArray(a PluggableSystemWindow<Squeak Inbox Talk - squea...etc...
backgroundWorkers: a WeakValueDictionary(#contents->nil #conversations->a Process...etc...
backgroundWorkerUpdateMessages: a SharedQueue(1)
inbox: a TalkInbox<squeak-dev>
searchModel: a TalkTextSearchModel
selectedConversation: nil
allConversations: #()
numberOfConversations: nil
conversations: an OrderedCollection()
menuFilter: a TalkFilterSet
contents: a Text for 'Welcome to Squeak Inbox Talk!

In the last 90 days, the s...etc...

PluggableMultiColumnListMorph>>getFullList
Receiver: a PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(2530911)
Arguments and temporary variables:
columnIndex: nil
columnIndexLimiT: nil
rowIndex: nil
firstRow: nil
columns: nil
listSize: nil
selector: #conversationColumns
Receiver's instance variables:
bounds: 582 at 205 corner: 1686 at 654
owner: a PluggableSystemWindow<Squeak Inbox Talk - squeak-dev>(2630478)
submorphs: {a TransformMorph(1579066)}
fullBounds: 582 at 205 corner: 1686 at 654
color: Color white
extension: a MorphExtension (2006877) [locked] [other: (textColor -> Color bl...etc...
borderWidth: 1
borderColor: (Color r: 0.368 g: 0.391 b: 0.496)
model: a TalkInboxBrowser
slotName: nil
open: false
scrollBar: a ScrollBar(730638)
scroller: a TransformMorph(1579066)
retractableScrollBar: false
scrollBarOnLeft: false
getMenuSelector: #conversationMenu:
getMenuTitleSelector: nil
hasFocus: false
hScrollBar: a ScrollBar(3118713)
hScrollBarPolicy: #whenNeeded
vScrollBarPolicy: #whenNeeded
scrollBarThickness: 10
list: {an OrderedCollection() . an OrderedCollection() . an OrderedCollection()...etc...
fullList: {an OrderedCollection() . an OrderedCollection() . an OrderedCollection...etc...
modelToView: a Dictionary()
viewToModel: a Dictionary()
getListSelector: #conversationColumns
getListSizeSelector: nil
getListElementSelector: nil
getIndexSelector: #selectedConversationIndex
setIndexSelector: #selectedConversationIndex:
keystrokeActionSelector: nil
autoDeselect: true
lastKeystrokeTime: 0
lastKeystrokes: ''
lastClickTime: nil
doubleClickSelector: #openConversation
handlesBasicKeys: nil
potentialDropRow: nil
hoverRow: 0
listMorph: a LazyListMorph(3695936)
keystrokePreviewSelector: nil
priorSelection: nil
getIconSelector: #conversationIconAtRow:atColumn:
getHelpSelector: #conversationHelpAtRow:atColumn:
listMorphs: an OrderedCollection(a LazyListMorph(3695936) a LazyListMorph(12072...etc...

--- The full stack ---
SqhMailmanAggregator(Object)>>notify:
[] in SqhMailmanAggregator>>messagesNormalizedDo:
Dictionary(Collection)>>ifEmpty:
SqhMailmanAggregator>>messagesNormalizedDo:
SqhMailmanAggregator>>resetCacheForMailMessages
SqhMailmanAggregator class>>resetCacheForMailMessages
SqhMailmanAggregator class>>messages
SqhMailmanAggregator class>>resetCacheForMailInReplyTo
SqhMailmanAggregator class>>conversations
TalkMailConversation>>mails
TalkConversation>>messages
TalkConversation>>latestDate
[] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
[] in [] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
OrderedCollection>>collect:
[] in TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
Array(SequenceableCollection)>>withIndexCollect:
TalkInboxBrowser>>conversationColumns
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph>>getFullList
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph>>getFilteredList
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(PluggableListMorph)>>getList
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(PluggableListMorph)>>updateListFilter
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(PluggableListMorph)>>updateList:
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(PluggableListMorph)>>updateList
PluggableMultiColumnListMorph(PluggableListMorph)>>update:
[] in TalkInboxBrowser(Object)>>changed:
DependentsArray>>do:
TalkInboxBrowser(Object)>>changed:
TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>changed:
TalkInboxBrowser>>changed:
TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>changedDependent:
TalkInboxBrowser>>changedDependent:
[] in TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>changed:
Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do:
TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>changed:
TalkInboxBrowser>>changed:
[] in TalkInboxBrowser>>startGatheringConversations
[] in [] in [] in [] in TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>backgroundWorkerFor:do:updating:thenDo:
TalkInboxBrowser(TalkModel)>>stepForBackgroundWorkerAt:
StepMessage(MorphicAlarm)>>value:
[] in WorldState>>runLocalStepMethodsIn:
[] in ActiveWorldVariable class(DynamicVariable class)>>value:during:
FullBlockClosure(BlockClosure)>>ensure:
ActiveWorldVariable class(DynamicVariable class)>>value:during:
[] in ActiveWorldVariable class>>value:during:
FullBlockClosure(BlockClosure)>>ensure:
ActiveWorldVariable class>>value:during:
PasteUpMorph>>becomeActiveDuring:
WorldState>>runLocalStepMethodsIn:
WorldState>>runStepMethodsIn:
PasteUpMorph>>runStepMethods
WorldState>>doOneCycleNowFor:
WorldState>>doOneCycleFor:
PasteUpMorph>>doOneCycle
[] in MorphicProject>>spawnNewProcess
[] in FullBlockClosure(BlockClosure)>>newProcess

> Am 17.07.2021 um 17:13 schrieb Thiede, Christoph <Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>:
>
> Hi Bernhard,
>
> Thanks a lot for your feedback! :-)
>
>> I clicked on the Beta version button as well. Not sure if this did install a newer version, though.
>
> Actually, this button only opens an app menu. If you want to install the latest updates, click "self-update" in this menu.
>
>> What is the best way to find this out, by the way.
>
> At the moment, there isn't one, I'm afraid. But if you hit the "send feedback" button in the app menu, you can see the change date of the current version. You could then compare this date to the latest commit date in the GitHub repository. But yes, it would be nice to have an easier way for this. Maybe a contemporary package manager for Squeak that supports Metacello ...
>
>> I ran into a MNU when trying to filter conversions by myself.
>
> Ouch, sorry for that! I have just commited a fix for that, if you choose the self-update option, you should be able to use these filters now.
>
>> This e-mail is a test if replying works for me.
>
> It works! :-)
>
> If there are any other bugs or inconveniences, please report back. Otherwise, I'll also accept success experience reports. :D
>
> Best,
> Christoph
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Von:bernhard at pieber.com<bernhard at pieber.com>
> Gesendet:Samstag, 17. Juli 2021 10:26:59
> An:squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org; Thiede, Christoph
> Betreff:Re: [ANN] Squeak Inbox Talk - bringing squeak-dev into your image
> Hi Christoph,
>
> Congratulations on Squeak Inbox Talk. Impressive work!
>
> I have yet to use it more to give more extensive feedback. However, the first impression is great.
>
> Installation went smoothly. I clicked on the Beta version button as well. Not sure if this did install a newer version, though. What is the best way to find this out, by the way.
>
> I ran into a MNU when trying to filter conversions by myself.
>
> This e-mail is a test if replying works for me.
>
> Cheers,
> Bernhard
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