[squeak-dev] Twitter Smalltalk discussion that may interest folk here

Thiede, Christoph Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de
Tue Mar 16 15:49:52 UTC 2021


Side note:


> > [...] the shortness of posts mandates being terse and that tends to mean clear, quick, succinct [...]

>
> Ha! If anything, promotes laziness. Writing clear, concise, and correct thoughts takes a lot of effort.

Being brief takes a lot of effort, too, I can tell you ... ;-)

Best,
Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von Taeumel, Marcel
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. März 2021 16:04:16
An: squeak-dev
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Twitter Smalltalk discussion that may interest folk here

Hi Liam.

> It may have been, but it was _not my question_.

Oh, it sure was. You quoted something from Twitter added something like "Is he right?". That's definitely low effort. ;-)

> [...] the shortness of posts mandates being terse and that tends to mean clear, quick, succinct [...]

Ha! If anything, promotes laziness. Writing clear, concise, and correct thoughts takes a lot of effort. With more text, there is at least some chance that not-so-good writes may express themselves somehow. Without that, what's left is often superficial rant because there are not so many good writers out there. Just my two cents. :-)

> I don't know if you saw my talk, or read the script, or anything. If
> not, you might find it interesting, and then you would understand my
> position.

I will do that. Thanks for sharing. :-)

Best,
Marcel

Am 16.03.2021 14:52:59 schrieb Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com>:

On Tue, 16 Mar 2021 at 14:47, Marcel Taeumel wrote:
>
> Hi Liam.
>
> I am happy to read that there is actual interest behind your initial question, which -- to be honest -- looked rather provocative to me. ;-) Sorry, if my previous answer did irritate you in some way.

It may have been, but it was _not my question_.
>
> Well, countering a fundamentally negative attitude is in my experience not worth the effort if the topic-under-discussion may not even be relevant at all. Especially that thing about "malware" hints at a rather negative disposition toward people in general.

Yes and no. Up to a point I find Twitter useful for this: the
shortness of posts mandates being terse and that tends to mean clear,
quick, succinct. It prevents people from going on and on like a
politician facing a difficult question.

> Yet, I am always happy to answer open-minded questions about Squeak and its concepts.

I don't know if you saw my talk, or read the script, or anything. If
not, you might find it interesting, and then you would understand my
position.
The video is here: https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/new_type_of_computer/
Transcript, slides, etc: https://liam-on-linux.livejournal.com/77065.html

I am very much more on this side:

> Or are you more interested in "augmenting human intellect" (see Douglas Engelbart) through a computational system? :-)

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