[squeak-dev] Default preferences

Thiede, Christoph Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de
Sat Nov 27 22:58:36 UTC 2021


Hi Timothy,


> Iirc preferences are/can be project specific


Isn't that at least partially broken?


Anyway, I like your idea of different presets - but not sure whether they deserve separate manifested projects. The preference wizard is great for previewing settings in real-time.


Best,

Christoph

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Another brainstorm...


Release an image containing Projects that express different  preference Idioms.  (Iirc preferences are/can be project specific).

I do not use them, but I think flaps and other older squeakisms are fascinating and fun and absolutely should be presented forever.


Heck....emacs has snippets for various languages....a flap where I could pull a smalltalk snippet into a workspace would be handy.


But then, I think Tom's Window Manager (twm) is a crown jewel of  X


tty


---- On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 16:17:32 -0500 Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de wrote ----


> I always hide flaps - would it be something for the PreferenceWizardMorph?


Me too, good point.


> Or hiding some menus - like Projects?


If we find a compact UI for this, it could go into the PWM, too.


> Also, the last 'page' offering extra packages - would it be possible to include Inbox Talk?

Ah, thank you! :-) Marcel already asked me to do this. Will do this definitely before the next release, just wanted to clean up some things in SIT before ...

Best,
Christoph

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Could be just me, but I always hide flaps - would it be something for the PreferenceWizardMorph? Or hiding some menus - like Projects?

Also, the last 'page' offering extra packages - would it be possible to include Inbox Talk?

Thanks,


^[^ Jaromir
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On 2021-11-23T09:44:29+01:00, marcel.taeumel at hpi.de<mailto:marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> wrote:

> Hi all --
>
> There is no need to change the default values for the preferences that are in the PreferenceWizardMorph. Let's focus on whether some interesting preferences are missing from that morph and on the values for preferences not in that morph.
>
> Best,
> Marcel
> Am 23.11.2021 00:13:44 schrieb tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org>:
> >> 1. Windowing
> >> Personally, the first thing I do in every new image is to enable these prefs:
> >> "mouse over for keyboard focus", "open tools attached to mouse cursor", "windows' contents are always active".
> >> Do I belong to a minority of Squeakers or could we satisfy a majority of Squeakers by turning on these prefs by default?
>
> Well *I* wouldn't be happy with them but then I immediately load my prefs file anyway so maybe I wouldn't even notice.
>
> > For myself I'd add "Embed a Transcript in a Workspace" because I use and move both around the screen all the time; and frankly, since my first encounter with Squeak I always wondered why I have to open two tools, one of which has a totally nuts name, in order to be able to print "Hello" ;)
>
> But a Transcript is fundamentally different to a Workspace; the former is for the system to tell you what is going on, not for scribbling notes.
>
>
> >> 4. Editing
> >> - Auto enclose brackets -> #beforeSpaces (see [1], pending. Inserting a bracket pair () right before a character just feels pretty useless to me.)
> >> - Enclose selection with brackets -> true
>
> Again, very not OK for me.
>
> tim
> --
> tim Rowledge; tim at rowledge.org; http://www.rowledge.org/tim
> Hackers have kernel knowledge.
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