[squeak-dev] Problem creating MVCProject in Mac

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Mon Aug 15 16:38:47 UTC 2022


Hi Javier,

> On Aug 13, 2022, at 3:41 PM, Javier Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> But -core-graphics works!, -metal have this message:
> 
> 2022-08-13 17:35:32.628 Squeak[10943:21373230] -[sqSqueakOSXHeadlessView sqScreenSize]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0x7ff77dd45c00
> 
> and stop, so probably the default was -opengl.
> Thanks all  for your help.

That’s great!  Now we have to make this happen automatically.  I have an old laptop so I could probably get this to work.

> 
>> The MBP is in 10.4 but with a patched OS, you can go up to Big Sur if you are very patient (it use Metal acceleration for the Finder for the first time).
>> This mac don't support Metal, but the problem is only with MVC, Morphic (and the rest) works very well (so far).
>> Testing with a lot of clicks I can get the browser (probably the menu open and the next click select the browser) and the browser works OK, so I think the problem is with (some) mouse events?.
>> The -opengl flag don't help, same result.
> 
>> On 13 Aug 2022, at 14:07, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205073
>> 
>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>> 
>>>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 12:03 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Hi Javier,
>>> 
>>>     I expect it’s because the Mac doesn’t support Metal.  If it is the same issue as we have with Virtend, the graphics subsystem required Metal support.  There used to be a -opengl flag that would force the vm to use the opengl back end.  This may still work.
>>> 
>>> If it doesn’t we could possibly work together on vm-dev (we being the high dpi developers, you, and I’ll try and give some time; and I do have an old laptop that has 10.13 and does not support Metal on which to test) to try and get it going again.  But if the code is missing from current MacOS, not merely deprecated, then it’s going to be difficult.
>>> 
>>> _,,,^..^,,,_ (phone)
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 13, 2022, at 10:54 AM, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So is the OS 10.13 or 10.14 then?
>>>> 
>>>> If I would have to guess I would guess that some bit of our new HDPI code is falling over either on 10.13 or 10.14 on that type of display. 
>>>> 
>>>> It shouldn't, but, it might be very hard for someone to fix....
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> cheers
>>>> 
>>>> bruce
>>>> 
>>>> On 2022-08-13T19:27:11.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso <javier_diaz_r at mac.com> wrote:
>>>> Its an old 2011 who is only Apple supported to 10.13:
>>>> Hardware Overview:
>>>> 
>>>>   Model Name:	MacBook Pro
>>>>   Model Identifier:	MacBookPro8,1
>>>>   Processor Name:	Intel Core i7
>>>>   Processor Speed:	2.7 GHz
>>>>   Number of Processors:	1
>>>>   Total Number of Cores:	2
>>>>   L2 Cache (per Core):	256 KB
>>>>   L3 Cache:	4 MB
>>>>   Hyper-Threading Technology:	Enabled
>>>>   Memory:	8 GB
>>>>   Boot ROM Version:	87.0.0.0.0
>>>>   SMC Version (system):	1.68f99
>>>>   Serial Number (system):	C02G669EDRJ9
>>>>   Hardware UUID:	DC85D6C6-A8B9-506A-8753-3AA32ACDA180
>>>>   Sudden Motion Sensor:
>>>>   State:	Enabled
>>>> 
>>>> Graphics/Display:
>>>> Intel HD Graphics 3000:
>>>> 
>>>>   Chipset Model:	Intel HD Graphics 3000
>>>>   Type:	GPU
>>>>   Bus:	Built-In
>>>>   VRAM (Dynamic, Max):	512 MB
>>>>   Vendor:	Intel
>>>>   Device ID:	0x0126
>>>>   Revision ID:	0x0009
>>>>   Displays:
>>>> Color LCD:
>>>>   Display Type:	LCD
>>>>   Resolution:	1280 x 800
>>>>   UI Looks like:	1280 x 800
>>>>   Framebuffer Depth:	24-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
>>>>   Main Display:	Yes
>>>>   Mirror:	Off
>>>>   Online:	Yes
>>>>   Rotation:	Supported
>>>>   Automatically Adjust Brightness:	No
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Really I don't use the MVC very much, so is not very important to me, I also have an Pi 3B+ who can use.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Aug 2022, at 11:29, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> So which Mac Power Book?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to track down info about the display.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It might help to run System Report, or what 10.14 called it to see the info about the display.
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> bruce
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479 at infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 18.24.53.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2022-08-13T17:33:42.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso <javier_diaz_r at mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 13 Aug 2022, at 02:21, Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So it does work ok on 10.15.  I guess you stay on 10.14 because 10.15 doesn't work on your mac, right?
>>>>>> Yes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I did see these sorts of problems when we were working towards a release and it might be related to the HDPI code that was put in.  Is it possible to try changing the resolution of the screen and see if that fixes it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> No, this is a MBP 1280x800 I can only change to 1152x720 or 1024x840 neither works.
>>>>> Testing in 5.3 I see the Quit entry in the mac menu also don't work to exit the image (why?) so that is not relevant. 
>>>>>> Also, what is the display?  
>>>>> Only the gray background:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <Screen Shot 2022-08-13 at 10.17.12.png>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> bruce
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2 at infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 09.17.54.png>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2022-08-12T21:02:21.000+02:00, Javier Diaz-Reinoso via Squeak-dev <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I download Squeak6.0-22104-64bit.dmg, extract app, run, skip configuration, menu Create MVCProject, enter, click but the main menu don't open, I need to Force Quit to exit the image.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tested Squeak6.0-22104-64bit-202206021410-Windows-x64 in VirtualBox Win10 and that works OK, so is probably a VM bug. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mac is in Mojave 10.14.6.
>>>>>> fbe1c8cdc44f10e9e2867310e1395ab2 at infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 09.17.54.png>
>>>>> 2b456032378f72c0c1fc96275c00c479 at infomaniak.com"><Screenshot 2022-08-13 at 18.24.53.png>
>>>> 
>> 
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