Hi Florian,

I should add one more note in case you are interested in updating
your sources.

There is a much newer source tarball for the traditional Squeak VM here:

  files.squeak.org/debian/tarball/Squeak-4.19.9-3814-src.tar.gz.

This the tarball that we provided for the proposed Debian package
update, and it would probably be the most suitable replacement
for the outdated Squeak-4.10.2.2614-src-no-mp3 from
<http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/>.

Again to be clear, this is the VM for old Squeak images and the
effort to update the Debian package to add the opensmalltalk-vm
to the Debian package has not been completed.

Dave


On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 01:38:17PM -0500, David T. Lewis wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> 
> On Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 09:36:37AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * David T. Lewis:
> > 
> > > Hi Florian,
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 01:10:45PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > >> I'm trying to build the VM with a C compiler which does not accept
> > >> implicit function declarations or implici int.
> > >> 
> > >> This is in preparation for a future change in GCC and Clang defaults.
> > >> More information is here:
> > >> 
> > >>   <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PortingToModernC>
> > >>   <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Toolchain/PortingToModernC>
> > >> 
> > >> (The second link points to a container image with an instrumented GCC
> > >> that can be used for experiments, or you can just inject
> > >> -Werror=implicit-function-declaration -Werror=implicit-int into the
> > >> build, which has the same results if compiler flags injection works
> > >> reliably throughout the build environment.)
> > >> 
> > >> According to Fedora's records Squeak-4.10.2.2614-src-no-mp3 was
> > >> downloaded from <http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/>.
> > >> 
> > >
> > > This is the traditional Squeak VM, which is useful for Squeak images
> > > up through Squeak 4.6. This VM is hosted at http://squeakvm.org.
> > > Newer and current Squeak images use the opensmalltalk-vm VM, which
> > > is hosted at https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.
> > 
> > So is it useful for Fedora to keep shipping this, or should we drop the
> > package because it gives a false impression this is the most recent
> > available version if it's in Fedora?  Eliot set in the parallel
> > subthread we should remove it.
> > 
> > Sorry, I'm just trying to port Fedora to newer C compilers, and this
> > package popped up.  I'm not really interested in Squeak as such.
> > 
> 
> If you can identify the people who were maintaining this package
> for Fedora, then I would suggest that you contact them for guidance.
> Otherwise you can safely assume that no one is working on it, and
> in that case you should follow Eliot's advice.
> 
> Dave
> 
>