My only idea would be to debug the invocation of the Transcript menu item and watch out for where the TranscriptStream instance is coming from. Sorry if this is not helpful ...


Best,

Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org> im Auftrag von karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Dezember 2022 13:25:40
An: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Transcript not working in Morphic projects ?

Another bit of information on this issue:

Transcript open (DoIt) in a Workspace creates a working Transcript.

But if I open Transcript from a menu, it will often create a non responsive Transcript

Best,
Karl

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 9:55 PM karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com<mailto:karlramberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I get this result from testing.

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Best,
Karl


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:22 PM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com<mailto:eliot.miranda at gmail.com>> wrote:


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:17 PM Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com<mailto:eliot.miranda at gmail.com>> wrote:
Some background that may help in diagnosis...

This finds all assignments toi Transcript, either directly "Transcript := expr" or via Smalltalk at: #Transcript put: expr.

Add to ParseNode:
anySatisfy: aBlock
    self nodesDo: [:n| (aBlock value: n) ifTrue: [^true]].
    ^false

then

| tb sb |
sb := Smalltalk bindingOf: #Smalltalk.
tb := Smalltalk bindingOf: #Transcript.
self sn browseAllSelect:
    [:m|
    ((m hasLiteral: tb) and: [m methodNode anySatisfy: [:n| n isAssignmentNode and: [n variable key == tb]]])
    or: [(m hasLiteral: #Transcript) and: [m methodNode anySatisfy:
[:n| n isMessageNode and: [n selector key == #at:put: and: [n receiver ifNil: [false] ifNotNil: [:r| r isVariableNode and: [r key == sb and: [n arguments first isLiteralNode and: [n arguments first key == #Transcript]]]]]]]]]]

Ugh.  Did not mean to send yet.  Anyway...

That shows that a project's transcript is installed in Project newState:, which assigns the project's transcript via TranscriptStream class>>#newTranscript:. That implies that all normal transcripts are unique to a project and have just one dependent (see TranscriptStream>>#open).

So the first thing to check is are all projects in your image holding onto unique transcripts.  e.g. im my image

{Project allSubInstances size. (IdentitySet withAll: (Project allSubInstances collect: #transcript)) size} #(5 5)

HTH


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:13 AM karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com<mailto:karlramberg at gmail.com>> wrote:


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 2:44 PM Thiede, Christoph <Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de<mailto:Christoph.Thiede at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de>> wrote:

I could not reproduce the issue on Windows with a 22104 image and the 202206021410 VM. Could you inspect Project current transcript identityHash and the transcript window's model identity hash for both projects and compare the results?

I did this test in a fresh image.

Transcript works in the Home project.
In the new project theTranscript got the title "Transcript #2" and does not respond.

The two Transcripts in Home project and the new project have different identityHash: 2484433 and 3994991

I opened another project in the same image and the fault was gone.


C:\Users\Karl\Downloads\TranscriptBug\Squeak6.1alpha-22300-64bit-202206021410-Windows-x64\Squeak.exe
Open Smalltalk Cog[Spur] VM [CoInterpreterPrimitives VMMaker.oscog-dtl.3185]
Win32 built on Jun  2 2022 15:29:44 Compiler: Clang 14.0.3
platform sources revision VM: 202206021410 runneradmin at fv-az455-257:/d/a/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm Date: Thu Jun 2 16:10:44 2022 CommitHash: c9fd365 Plugins: 202206021410 runneradmin at fv-az455-257:/d/a/opensmalltalk-vm/opensmalltalk-vm
CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-dtl.3185 uuid: 0e7f07b8-eed6-4362-b223-86c98594ddb9 Jun  2 2022
StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker.oscog-mt.3179 uuid: c6fbcb07-2a19-ed4f-8b40-9c119a70882a Jun  2 2022

 Best,
Karl



Best,

Christoph

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Von: Squeak-dev <squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org>> im Auftrag von karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com<mailto:karlramberg at gmail.com>>
Gesendet: Montag, 5. Dezember 2022 13:01:15
An: Bruce O'Neel
Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
Betreff: Re: [squeak-dev] Transcript not working in Morphic projects ?



On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 10:18 AM Bruce O'Neel <bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch<mailto:bruce.oneel at pckswarms.ch>> wrote:
Hi,

MacOS x86-64, Squeak 6.0 as shipped with image 22104 - fresh install with nothing else Squeak related on the system.

Start a new image
Open Transcript
Open Workspace
In the workspace type:  Transcript show: 'hello 1'.
Shows in Transcript

Next Create a Morphic project
Open it
Open Transcript
Open Workspace
In the workspace type: Transcript show: 'hello 2'.
Nothing shows.

Yes, I saw the same. Glad you could confirm my sanity :-D


Return to Previous Project

Create a MVC project
Open it
Open Transcript
Open Workspace
In the workspace type: Transcript show: 'hello 3'
Shows in Transcript.

Now if I do the same thing in Squeak 6.1 22297, downloading just the images/changes/sources, again on MacOS X x86-64 then it works fine.

And now, very interestingly, if I return to the as downloaded MacOS X Squeak 6.0 22104 the problem has gone away.


So I am running the same VM in both cases, but clearly 2 different images.  One in the Downloaded app directory and then one separately downloaded.

Now...  If I remove all trace of Squeak from the system, re-install Squeak 6.0 22104 from the dmg, the problem comes back with Squeak 6.0 update 22104,

But downloading and running just the Squeak 6.1 images/changes .zip, unzipping it, running the above commands make the same set of commands run correctly in Squeak 6.0 22104.

I don't see anything changing in the Squeak app directory.    A find looking for recently modified files under Library/Saved Application/Sate/org.squeak.squeak6.0-64bit.savedState and I can't see how this is changing things.

On Windows this works fine with Squeak 6.0 22104.  Ditto x86-64 Linux

Karl - Are you running on MacOS?

No, all testing I did was on Windows 10 and 11.
It's a very peculiar issue.

Best,
Karl


cheers

bruce



On 2022-12-05T07:21:36.000+01:00, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com<mailto:karlramberg at gmail.com>> wrote:


On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:33 AM tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org<mailto:tim at rowledge.org>> wrote:


> On 2022-12-04, at 1:51 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com<mailto:karlramberg at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hm,
> I got the same issue with a fresh downloaded Trunk image.
> No text is displayed in the Transcript
>
> To reproduce:
> -Make a new Morphic Project
> -Enter project and open a Workspace and Transcript
> -See if the Transcript responds.


This is very odd; it works perfectly well in my 22114 update image (Pi 64bit as usual). Not sure the new project should default to having flap/tabs though.

Just in case I tried it in both possible orders
- create transcript then workspace
- create workspace and then transcript
in case it was something to do with binding the morph to the name.


I'm mystified.
I got his error several times.
Now I can't reprodroduce it.

Best,
Karl

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