Hi,
just an update: I've sent a proposal to the Inbox: Kernel-jar.1446 with the following code:

signal
	"Ask ContextHandlers in the sender chain to handle this signal.  The default is to execute and return my defaultAction.
	Sending #signal to an already signaled exception generates a new exception of the same type with the same messageText"

	signalContext ifNotNil: [^self class signal: messageText]. 
	signalContext := thisContext contextTag.
	^(thisContext nextHandlerContextForSignal: self) handleSignal: self

If possible I'd like to withdraw my previous contribution to #signal making repeated #signal sends equivalent to sending #outer, to prevent future code from using that misleading approach. Subsequent #signal sends are NOT equivalent to #outer and they have their own subtly different meaning discussed here - provided my interpretation of ANSI is right this time :)

Thanks for your time and apologies for previous confusion.

best, 
Jaromir
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On 2022-02-05T18:48:39+01:00, mail at jaromir.net wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> On 2022-02-04T17:11:35-06:00, asqueaker at gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Hi Jaromir,
> > 
> > Here's a motivation example:
> > >
> > > [1/0] on: Error do: [:ex |
> > >         [ex signal] on: ZeroDivide do: [Transcript show: #ZeroDivide]
> > >         ]
> > >
> > > Would you expect this code to work and pick up the ZeroDivide handler?
> > >
> > ...
> > 
> > > The point or a use case is to provide additional (finer, more specific)
> > > handlers inside the general handler rather than wrap the general handler
> > > inside more specific handlers. More specific handlers can even be inside a
> > > method so the readability would not degrade.
> > >
> > 
> > I was able to do it by creating a new exception instance and signaling it:
> > 
> >     [1/0] on: Error do: [: err |
> >             [err copy signal] on: ZeroDivide do: [Transcript show:
> > #ZeroDivide] ]
> > 
> > I don't know about #copy, though, you might want to implement your own
> > special #freshCopy that throws out the signalContext, handlerContext and
> > outerContext, but the above "worked".  :)
> > 
> 
> Precisely, it crossed my mind too and yes, it has to be a "fresh" copy with blank instance variables (except messageText). A simple copy fails tests with nested outer etc...
> 
> I've checked ANSI again and they say, quote: [5.5.3.1 messageText][...] Subsequent sends of of the message #messageText to a signaled exception generated by sending the message #signal to the receiver of this message [note: the receiver is an exception instance] will also return this value.
> 
> So what I'm actually looking for is this: (and it's equivalent to the "fresh" copy idea)
> 
>     [1/0] on: Error do: [: err |  
>             [err class signal: err messageText] on: ZeroDivide do: [Transcript show: #ZeroDivide] ]
> 
> If I'm interpreting ANSI's intention correctly then we could update our #signal like this:
> 
> signal
> 	"Ask ContextHandlers in the sender chain to handle this signal.  The default is to execute and return my defaultAction.
> 	Signaling an already signaled exception is interpreted as signaling a new exception of the same type with the same messageText"
> 
> -	signalContext ifNotNil: [^self outer].
> +	signalContext ifNotNil: [^self copy signal: self messageText]. 
> 	signalContext := thisContext contextTag.
> 	^(thisContext nextHandlerContextForSignal: self) handleSignal: self
> 
> It was my idea last year to make subsequent sends of #signal to an already signaled exception equivalent to #outer and now I can see it was wrong and I'd like to really fix it this time :) All test are green, even the ones in Tests-jar.464.
> 
> Thanks, Chris, for discussing this.
> 
> best, 
> Jaromir
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