[squeak-dev] [Vm-dev] Squeak 6 on Mac

Tobias Pape Das.Linux at gmx.de
Wed Jul 6 20:33:28 UTC 2022


> On 6. Jul 2022, at 22:12, Herbert König <herbertkoenig at gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi,
> not sure
> Am 06.07.2022 um 21:55 schrieb Tobias Pape:
>> Hi Eliot
>>> On 6. Jul 2022, at 18:32, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2022 at 10:08 PM Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Hi Eliot
> Snip
>>> What we can do is:
>>> - DO not offer the AIO anymore
> I hope this is not meant seriously. Sometimes the AIO is so convenient.
> (Not having any Mac but Win/Linux/Arm.)

Well options are scarce.
We had arguments about AIO.
I then (2018) said this:

> But the AIO is impractical.
> Eg, for OSX we _must_ force users now to _move_ the .app bundle before starting it the first time, else things just do not work. The only viable Way I see for that is building read-only disk images, so that people must move the app.
> However, nobody else can use DMGs, so we have two things already:
> - ZIP
> - DMG
> And now that snaps (https://snapcraft.io/) enter the stage for linux, we have at least to _consider_ that, too.
> And when signing comes into play, this is getting too complex for me.
> I completely the understand the desirability of a portable app, but given we;re not a near-stateless browser and given our "workforce", I don't see this happen reliably in the forthcoming time.

I love AIOs and they're fun, but the Linux Balkan and the Mac zealots are no fun to play with.

No other Dev-system or Language offers AIOs.
While that could be a Unique selling point, they get increasingly hard to pull of and get right.

I'm not advocating against them properly, but someone™ would have to invest time and money to
test that damn thing on around 12-20 combinations of hardware and OS revisions. And I don't see that.

Please someone tell me a way to get it right :D

Best regards

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