[Squeak-fr] Re: Helping VWNC

[stéphane ducasse]

Hi Alain

Basically smalltalk/x is free but you do not get support. This is not 
open-source because I imagine that claus was a bit afraid that he could 
not sell software, but I guess that this is just because
he is not aware of alternative to GPL.

Smalltalk/X is compatible with VW, it runs well and fast. some stuffs 
such as the concurrency model
are better than VW. In fact claus had a threaded UI model long time ago.

For the mailing-list I do not know. It seems that there was a wiki 
somewhere. Have you looked at www.exept.de?

Stef

On 18 avr. 04, at 22:09, ALR wrote:

> Hi Stef
>  
> I found cincom's position about licenses unfriendly for developpers, 
> Dolphin smalltalk's position is much simple and clear for 
> developpers IMHO.
> What is the status of Smalltalk/X ? Is there a mailing list or 
> newsgroup ?
> "stéphane ducasse" <ducasse-2EmivuzZTYAXXHkOk0aIfQ at public.gmane.org> a 
> écrit dans le message de news: 
> 0C0A30F5-8F78-11D8-95DF-000A9573EAE2 at iam.unibe.ch...
> Hi
>
> Apparently some high-level managers at cincom are questioning about 
> the interest of having
> the non-commercial version of VisualWorks. Apparently the idea of a 
> time-bombed version is circulating. I think that we can help VWNC if 
> we would simply fill this form
>
> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/scripts/SurveyMain.ssp
>
> I filled it and stated that having a trial version limited in time 
> would be an step backward and that eventually I would migrate to other 
> smalltalks Smalltalk/X and Squeak are great and Smalltalk/X deserves 
> more attention.
>
> I really think that one of the aspect of the survival of VisualWorks 
> is linked to the existence of the NC version. I do not think that 
> ezboard would exist today if they could not have build a working 
> prototype. I know friends developping in VW in the worse time of 
> Objectshare that were desesperate and I remember the idea of buying 
> the stock option of Objectshare.
>
>  The VisualWorks engineering team is working in the right direction 
> and a strong VisualWorks is important for the ***entire*** Smalltalk 
> community, so do not think that you are not concerned because you use 
> Squeak or another Smalltalk! You are, we need a strong VisualWorks 
> full of success stories.
>
>  Stef
>
>
>
>
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