Re: [Squeak-fr] Re: Traduction squeak en français

[stéphane ducasse]

Ce qui est marrant c'est que les gens comme cela qui parlent, je ne  
les ai pas beaucoup vu faire
qqchose pour la communaute et apres ils critiquent....
Tres bien pour eux.

Stef

> En fait, il dit pleins de choses bien sur Squeak et voila sa  
> conclusion :
>
> "I've said a lot of nice things about Squeak, but I'll add here why  
> I use
> Python instead. As a Squeak negative, a big issue for me (others will
> disagree) is the license and licensing history. Anything that Disney
> touches scares me for example, and I don't think that stuff  
> developed when
> the Squeak team was at Disney is clearly licensed (I kept raising the
> Python licensing problems example (CNRI claiming it was never formally
> licensed), and that was just dealing with a non-profit!).
>    http://www.python.org/download/releases/1.6/license_faq/
> The Squeak license even as it is isn't formally "open source" or  
> "free"
> for several reasons. I could have fixed Squeak's technical issues  
> (and it
> has several I have not mentioned), but I could never get past the  
> license,
> so after it seemed no one "in charge" cared much about fixing it  
> they way
> I wanted it fixed, or alternatively community interest in starting  
> a from
> scratch reimplementation, I moved on. On Python's plus side, it has  
> better
> and more libraries than Squeak, has a bigger community, has a C-like
> syntax the masses find more acceptable (I still prefer Smalltalk's  
> keyword
> syntax though, along with blocks in control structures, though I like
> indentation), it has a relatively good licensing history, and it has
> widespread commercial use (good for consulting). Python misses many of
> Smalltalk's development tools overall, but those are more easily  
> remedied
> by a programmer than changing a license set in stone by two big
> corporations, creating a trap which could spring shut at any  
> moment. As I
> say, people disagree with my perception of the license. Squeak's  
> still a
> neat system, and for most people seems free enough. But Python has had
> more traction and really is free."
>
>
> A méditer !
>
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> Dr. Serge Stinckwich                                     OOOOOOOO
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