[Squeakfoundation]re: releasing SqueakMap, going forward
Craig Latta
squeakfoundation@lists.squeakfoundation.org
Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:37:25 -0800
Hi Doug--
FWIW...
> 3.2.1 has already been created (as a fork in the update stream, it
> doesn't appear to be on the ftp site). And 3.4alpha already has all
> of the 3.3alpha changes retrofitted into its update stream, plus a
> few other small changes. So to make 3.4 consist of only 3.2final
> plus SqueakMap, we'd have to dump almost all of the stuff currently
> in the 3.4alpha update stream. This would cause confusion for people
> currently using 3.4alpha, and it may also cause problems for some
> packages on SqueakMap which are listed as 3.4alpha-compatible and
> which may depend on some of the updates in 3.4alpha.
I don't buy that argument, given the nature of "alpha" ("features
definitely missing, and possible bugs"). I think people who are willing
to use alpha releases should be prepared for stuff like this.
(http://netjam.org/smalltalk/versions.html)
> (I could go either way as to whether your suggestion or the current
> situation is the better way to handle it. On one hand, Squeak does
> not normally update its minor version number (e.g. 3.2 to 3.4) based
> on such a small addition code-wise (SqueakMap)...
I don't think SqueakMap is "a small addition". But regardless, I don't
think the creation of a new minor version should require any particular
new-feature-set magnitude. It's far more important to simply make clear
that the feature set has changed (and I don't see any great disadvantage
to declaring a version dead, especially if it has yet to reach the final
release stage). And I don't think tertiary versions ever carry their
cognitive weight.
> If we don't like tertiary version numbers for Squeak releases, maybe
> we could agree to try to avoid them in the future.
That has my vote. :)
> John also suggested that we could have just updated 3.2 with SqueakMap
> and left the version number at 3.2, but I tend to agree with Craig
> that that would not have been a good idea, because Squeak 3.2 had
> already been released as "final" and was available on the download
> page at squeak.org for a couple of months. If we had done this,
> there would have been confusion as to which version was the real
> 3.2final. (For example, I think Stephane Ducasse might have used
> the original 3.2final to put on CD's for his book.)
Very well put. :)
thanks,
-C
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Craig Latta
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