[Squeakfoundation]A Gentle Introduction to the Squeak Community

[goran.hultgren@bluefish.se]

Andreas.Raab@gmx.de wrote:
> <quote>
> technically, Squeak isn't Open Source
> </quote>

Yes, Andreas - that is true. Cees tried the SqueakL on the OpenSource
guys (www.opensource.org) (they have a list for these things) and there
are two problems:

1. The font clause must be removed. This is possible to do, but until it
has been removed SqueakL fails OSD compliance.

2. Clause 6 fails the non-discrimination test of OSD.

A quote from Matthew Weigel on that: 

"IIRC, this actually came up with the APSL too (corrections, anyone? 
was it the Plan 9 license instead?). If that recollection is 
correct, then it seems that it might be 'easy' to point out that 
they have capitulated on that point previously (that's probably not 
the best wording to use around them, though :)."

And Forrest J. Cavalier III:

"Requiring  compliance with U.S. laws, even in other jurisdictions is 
unnecessary.  But the way paragraph 6 is worded, I think it obviously
fails the OSD non-discrimination test.

I quote that paragraph:

6. Export Law Assurances.  You may not use or otherwise export or
reexport the Apple Software except as authorized by United States law
and the laws of the jurisdiction in which the Apple Software was
obtained.  In particular, but without limitation, the Apple Software
may not be exported or reexported (i) into (or to a national or
resident of) any U.S. embargoed country or (ii) to anyone on the U.S.
Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals or 
the U.S. Department of Commerce's Table of Denial Orders.  By using
the Apple Software, you represent and warrant that you are not located
in, under control of, or a national or resident of any such country 
or on any such list.<p>

I am sorry that there are some previous licenses to work with
here.  Squeak is pretty well-known.  But my recommendation:
DEFINITELY DO NOT APPROVE."

regards, Göran