[Squeakfoundation]Stepping back from the steam
Stephane Ducasse
ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Thu May 8 09:44:22 CEST 2003
Hi all
After trying to read and understand all the emails in the squeak-dev
list I would like to make some points. This is personal and you do not
need to reply I try to stay at the fact levels but I will certainly
fail.
Squeak is a in transition phase from oligarchy to democracy so this
kind of crisis are normal. Still we should leanr from them
Side One:
I had the impression that andreas was facing a bit the situation that
we were before. I think that he is a bit exaggerating. I think that the
situation is improving (slowly sure but improving). Lots of new stuff
are happening even if there are not thrown away in the image because
one SqC guys like it. Andreas is shouting but he should be the
multimedia Guides/Harvester if he wants. This is fun because before
when somebody was saying something he got the message: do it this is
open source and his stuff has nearly zero chance of getting included if
it was not eToys, MM oriented.
Side Two:
Andreas has some points:
- we need a simple way for people to propose projects as in zope with
some simple
key points: leader, description, design/solution, history, code
We could have something similar to:
http://dev.zope.org/Fishbowl/Introduction.html
http://dev.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/DeclarativeSecurity/
FrontPage
- We should really pay attention that people can get involved.
- Squeak should have a Vision: I like the Smalltalk Platform this
includes everything.
- We should find way to get faster harvesting.
- We should have a decent web-site: the one of Squeak is bad. Look at
the one of Zope for example, the four item on the left is about
getting involved. So may be a call for a better
web-site is important.
I guess that you all know that but I wanted to share that with you,
because we should not kill the Guides before they even can show that
they can do it.
Stef
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