[Squeakfoundation] SqueakMap in the image (was Re: Incorporating removals & KCP stuff)

Daniel Vainsencher danielv at netvision.net.il
Sun May 25 13:17:46 CEST 2003


[Alternative browser]
Yes, that sounds cool. I think one good long term goal for such a
browser would be that it is possible to plug into it all of the
functionality of the RB, without having to subclass it. This forces you
to make quite a lot of the hooks that are needed to plug in other stuff
that should be in the browser, like package management, analysis tools,
and so forth.

Please let us know your plans.

Daniel

Stephane Ducasse <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Just a simple point about packages. I discussed a lot with Avi and
> I think that while DVS is a simple start the future is to have real 
> package and not only
> hack around the categories. Avi agrees on that.  I discussed recently 
> also with joseph
> and he said that Ginsu is free (I should send him a license).
> What would be good is to have a group of people discussing/cooperating 
> to create this asset.
> May be this is already in place (sorry for not knowing it).
> 
> So there is still a gap between having definitions in the image (like 
> in Ginsu) and only
> definitions in the exchange files but having definitions is important.  
> We should have a way
> to see in the file that we declare a new Class, Pool what ever. We 
> could have then multiple
> run-times if people want and we could load code without installing it. 
> So imagine what we could
> do.
> 
> Having support for real package in the image is not really difficult 
> but the browser is
> so much a pain that it will hamper any move. Nathanael and alex for the 
> traits and the
> classboxes had to fix, patch, this gory browser, Markus also for his 
> ideas. What we are
> planning to do here is to build our own browser where they could plug 
> what they need for
>   their research.
> I will check what is the plan but it should be still in our current 
> plans. First we want
> to fix the core (compiler, changes notification, classOrganization). 
> However, this means
> that we could take into account that other entities such as packages 
> could be used there too.
> 
> Stef
> 
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