[UI] Widgets ready

Wed Aug 29 22:56:59 UTC 2007

Gary,

Understood about 6.  It would be nice to have control over it, but I am
much less concerned about the IDE than what end users would see and have
to use.

How hard would it be to make the cursor movement controllable by
preference?

Bill

Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
Tel: (352) 846-1285
FAX: (352) 392-7029

>>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 8/29/2007 2:33 PM >>>
6. The theming only applies to the text editor/entry morphs created via
the
theme, for compatability for the moment.

As for 3., I've kind of got used to the focus-follows-mouse thing. It
can be
changed, but, as I said, it required (even more) invasive code into
Morphic!
Personally I'd be happy to do that, preference-based, of course...

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[mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Schwab
Sent: 29 August 2007 8:22 pm
To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
Subject: RE: [UI] Widgets ready

Gary,

1.  Fair enough.
2.  I don't think it's either, but who knows what I grabbed.  The image
is a
working one from my Ubuntu box.

3.  This one hurts.  With that said, I am willing to work at making it
work;
it is one of my main hopes for this group.  With much respect for what
you
have done and gratitude for your sharing it, and for releasing it for
us to
play with it<g>, tabbing is meaningless if a twitch pushes the mouse
and
snaps the cursor away.  As I said, I will gladly help out if the group
agrees that this is the right way to go.  I need to look at the code
some,
but you are close to having my vote in that regard.

4.  I'll grab another image and try again.
5.  Very impressive.
6.  Let me rephrase my dumb question: is #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor:
the
right place to try to change the workspace background color? 
Understood about the fill style - I am just wondering whether that is
the
right place to set it for the workspaces and code panes in browsers and
the
debugger.

Thanks again!!!!

Bill

Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu 
Tel: (352) 846-1285
FAX: (352) 392-7029

>>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 8/29/2007 1:50 PM >>>
One by one:

1. Probably best to close all uncecessary windows before installing. 2.
Not
tested on 3.10 or with OmniBrowser yet. 3. Input still follows mouse
cursor,
though tabbing works if mouse is still (future enhancement maybe that
will
change a lot of Morphic code). 4. #modalMorph see point 1. 5. Built
on-the
fly, just work quickly (I was astonished too). 6. Not sure what you
mean
about the "ledger" style. For the themes answer any valid fillstyle
(Color,
GradientFillStyle etc.)

Hope this helps...

-----Original Message-----
From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
[mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill
Schwab
Sent: 29 August 2007 7:35 pm
To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
Subject: RE: [UI] Widgets ready

Gary,

Moniticello seems to have something personal against me (perhaps
because I
have never taken the time to figure it out).  That didn't go well, but
loading via the filelist seemed to work fine.

I am getting some DNU walkbacks re #topWindow.  System windows open
prior to
the upgrade are often unwilling to close (though the file list
did??) and some things such as sender/implementors in the IDE will not
open.
Zurgle did some similar things IIRC, though I also recall being able to
halo
things out of existence there, but am not having luck with that here.

At least in the basic controls example, I am finding the input focus
follows
the mouse cursor, and I thought I read that you had addressed that (or
is
there more I need to load or configure?).  For example, after clicking
in
the text entry field, the focus gets stolen by simply mousing over the
disabled text entry or various lists and maybe groups. 
I _think_  I have the image set to not do that kind of thing, at least
not
any more than usual.  Is the behavior expected, or should I grab a new
image?  At least closing extant windows starts going bad in
#promptForCancel
and PSUIManager>>confirm:.  In trying to learn about it, I chose
Implementors of... in the debugger and got what appears to the same
basic
problem in #modalMorph.

Semi-rhetorical question: how did you get the task bar previews to work
so
quickly?  Are they cached, or do you build them on the fly?

I am afraid that I must tear myself away for now.  More later.

Dumb question: one of the things I have long liked in Dolphin is the
ledger
color backgrounds in  their editors.  What would be the best place to
make a
change that would affect workspaces, code panes of the browsers and
debugger, etc.?  I found #textEditorNormalFillStyleFor:, but its
complexity
in the soft theme makes me wonder whether its the right thing -
nothing
looks like that would be required to render it??

Let's see, it was 20 minutes ago I was saying I needed to stop
fiddling
:)

Thanks!!

Bill

Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
University of Florida
Department of Anesthesiology
PO Box 100254
Gainesville, FL 32610-0254

Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu 
Tel: (352) 846-1285
FAX: (352) 392-7029

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