[UI] Re: Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there

Tue Oct 2 08:03:14 UTC 2007

Apologies for not responding sooner.
I'll look at incorporating these changes into the Shout package when I get 
time.

It seems like an appropriate thing to be able to specify, and will allow 
users to modify the Shout defaultStyleTable so that text is rendered, for 
example, white/green on a black background (some people like that kind of 
thing).

Of course, what is really needed is a dialog to allow people to edit the 
Shout colours/styles, rather than hacking the defaultStyleTable method.
It's on my ToDo list.

Cheers,
Andy

"Gary Chambers" <gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:000001c8043a$f85b33c0$5401a8c0 at europa...
> And if you want Shout workspaces to do the same add this also to
> PluggableShoutMorph instance methods:
>
> initialColorInSystemWindow: aSystemWindow
> "Answer the default colour for shout morphs as a top-level
> pane in a system window."
>
> ^self defaultColor
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
>> Gary Chambers
>> Sent: 01 October 2007 11:21 am
>> To: 'Squeak's User Interface'
>> Subject: RE: [UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
>>
>>
>> These things are tricky. I support, in Widgets, an overridable
>> #initialColorInSystemWindow: method. Sadly the shout editor
>> is embedded in an alignment morph so it is hard to driectly
>> target the colour to the shout morph without having a blanket
>> colour for all alignments say.
>>
>> Also, the initial colour gets overriden by the theme for lists...
>>
>> I think the safest option for you, for the moment, is to
>> extend the instance side of PluggableShoutMorph with the following:
>>
>> defaultColor
>> "Answer the default colour for shout morphs."
>>
>> ^Color r: 255 g: 255 b: 230 range: 255
>>
>> Hope this helps...
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> > [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
>> > Bill Schwab
>> > Sent: 30 September 2007 4:48 pm
>> > To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> > Subject: Re: [UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
>> >
>> >
>> > I really didn't do much, so the credit belongs to OA (for
>> > doing it in Dolphin), Gary for the overall appearance, and
>> > Andy Tween's stunning work on Shout.  Maybe Andy can give us
>> > some advice on where to change background colors.  I could
>> > live with its being limited to Shout workspaces - especially
>> > if the alternative is not having anywhere ;)
>> > My only concern re Shout is that I typically do not use the
>> > workspace extension, because I often use workspaces (the
>> > system window variety) for notes more than code.
>> >
>> > The ideal solution changes the background of workspaces in
>> > inspectors, the debugger, browsers, and workspace system
>> > windows.  Basically, anywhere do-it and friends are
>> > available, the background color is appropriate.  If there is
>> > a good place to hack to get that effect, I can certainly do
>> > it, but it seems that Squeak should be able to do this w/o
>> > the need to edit code that is maintained by others.
>> >
>> > It case you want to reproduce it, the color is
>> >
>> >    Color r:1.0 g:1.0 b:230.0/255
>> >
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> > University of Florida
>> > Department of Anesthesiology
>> > PO Box 100254
>> > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>> >
>> > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> > Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> > FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> >
>> > >>> klaus.witzel at cobss.com 09/27/07 11:04 PM >>>
>> > That looks great !
>> >
>> > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 01:21:55 +0200, Bill Schwab wrote:
>> >
>> > > This should do it:
>> > >
>> > >  http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
>> > >
>> > > Bill
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> > > University of Florida
>> > > Department of Anesthesiology
>> > > PO Box 100254
>> > > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>> > >
>> > > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> > > Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> > > FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>>> Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
>> > > I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation
>> problems I
>> > > had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to the UI swiki
>> > page,
>> > > downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using
>> > > Monitcello.  Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
>> > new image.  I
>> > > appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
>> > capturing a change
>> > > that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
>> > the visual
>> > > changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
>> > before I had
>> > > time to break it :)
>> > >
>> > > I will probably send it to Gary as a start.  What is the
>> > proper way to
>> > > make it available?  I suppose the easiest thing is to put
>> > it on my web
>> > > page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to
>> remotely access
>> > our
>> > > servers, so I can't do that right now.
>> > >
>> > > When it becomes available, you will notice the background
>> > color of the
>> > > browser's and debugger's code pane.  I would hope for the
>> > debugger's
>> > > inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
>> > currently show it
>> > > only for the top line.  Ironically, the workspace in the
>> > image is not
>> > > correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has the correct
>> > > color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows the color
>> > only
>> > > to a point, after which the default white takes over.
>> > >
>> > > Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
>> > similar changes
>> > > that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
>> > >
>> > > Bill
>> >
>> >
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