[UI] Squeak's Menus Are Awful

[Bill Schwab]

Gang,

Now that I have filtered this list into its own folder, I have remember
to **look at it**  ~:0

How about this as a compromise: menus that are worthy of being left in
place (not many IMHO - they should instead be separate system windows)
should have a title bar and be draggable by that; other menus should be
sufficiently modal that it is not a consideration.

Squeak has long (ab)used menus in situations where more complex views
were appropriate.  Look at the file picking menus: one gets a chain of
menus vs. a dialog.  Note that there are dialogs, but there are also
hideous menus.

Bill



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>>> gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com 09/13/07 7:00 PM >>>
I think you should be "able" to pick up the menus, just via halo though,
to
move them out of the way. Not by a default click/drag.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of 
> tim Rowledge
> Sent: 13 September 2007 11:55 pm
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Squeak's Menus Are Awful
> 
> 
> 
> On 13-Sep-07, at 3:18 PM, Todd Blanchard wrote:
> 
> > Specifically, they open to the right of the mouse.
> There's a good reason for that; if you click the mouse button 
> you get  
> a button-down followed by a button-up. If the menu opened under the  
> mouse location you would have accidentally picked whatever item was  
> in the right place. Delete all files, anyone?
> 
> It's particularly likely to be annoying when the menus are slow to  
> dispaly, which they certainly seem to be in recent Squeak 
> images. Now  
> venting about Morphic performance in 3.9 is something worth doing.  
> Dismal. And I'm running on a 2GHz dualcore OSX machine with 2Gb ram,  
> not exactly a slow system.
> 
> >   If you open a menu, don't move the mouse, and click, you will
> > pick up the menu with the hand.  This happens to me - oh - about  
> > 50% of the time.  Either open the menu under the mouse, or make it  
> > so I can't pick it up except with the title bar.
> Do the latter for the reasons mentioned above. Being able to pick up  
> a menu at any point is insane.
> 
> 
> tim
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