[UI] Well, shall we do something then?

Gary Chambers gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com
Fri Sep 14 19:32:47 UTC 2007


For Dolphin, without platform widget (specifically Win32) support, we'd have
to emulate the api it does use too... Or are we just talking about taking
its event/composition model?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jason Johnson
> Sent: 14 September 2007 4:46 pm
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Well, shall we do something then?
> 
> 
> On 9/14/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> > Jason, Gary,
> >
> > Sorry for the delay in response.  I am a little nervous 
> about mining 
> > Dolphin, because it would be easy to trick ourselves into 
> thinking we 
> > have a cleanroom implementation.
> 
> Hadn't thought about that.
> 
> > The other Dolphin-related topic is the buyout effort.  If 
> we succeed 
> > with it, then Dolphin would be open, and one could simply port its 
> > framework to Squeak.  I dread putting the brakes on 
> enthusiasm, but in 
> > this case, it might be appropriate to do other things while 
> the buyout 
> > works its way forward.
> 
> Does this buyout realistically have a chance?  I mean don't 
> they want like half a million USD or so?
> 
> > With that said, how do you envision a rewrite working?  How would I 
> > ensure that I am not simply copying OA's work?  Typically, 
> I have seen 
> > this kind of thing done by two people, one or more 
> consultant/guides 
> > familiar with (aka tainted by knowledge of) the reference 
> system, and 
> > developers sworn to never look at the reference system.  
> The "blinded" 
> > developers write the actual code.  In that model, I would be a very 
> > good guide, but I know too much about Dolphin to write the 
> framework 
> > myself.
> >
> > Fair?
> >
> > Bill
> 
> Well, I hadn't thought about it honestly, but there are 
> several papers on the subject matter.  One from Dolphin at at 
> least one other one that predates the Dolphin effort.  I 
> think we could work from there, no? 
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