[Vm-dev] Re: Uploaded squeak-vm 3.11.3

[Bert Freudenberg]

On 26.01.2010, at 16:54, David T. Lewis wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:27:54PM -0800, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
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>> On 26.01.2010, at 12:01, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
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>>> On 26.01.2010, at 11:03, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
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>>>> On 26.01.2010, at 05:31, Jos? L. Redrejo wrote:
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>>>>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=497583 I have not ideas
>>>>> to argue with this man. In fact, I think he might be totally right.
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>>>> Well, there is a source for this of course (in the VMMaker Squeak package). Generating the C code is a manual, interactive process and requires a running Squeak installation. Making that scriptable is possible, but so far nobody has done it AFAIK.
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>>>> FYI, Peter von der Ahe did it in the Newspeak project.  This isn't entirely relevant because some of this may be Newspeak code, but the source is available from http://newspeaklanguage.org/the-newspeak-programming-language/downloads/ & newspeak-source-2009-10-28.zip
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>>> I guess you're referring to NsVmMaker.ns1? That does not seem to be used by the regular build process. I guess it is invoked manually to regenerate the sources.
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>>> Yes-ish, IIRC from a gnu make makefile. 
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>> If so, it's not included in the source release. No makefile (or other build-related file) refers to "NsVmMaker". 
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>> Thanks anyway :)
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>> - Bert -
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> Got to give Tim Rowledge some credit on this one folks. Given a known
> directory structure and a VMMaker configuration file saved from a
> VMMakerTool, the script for generating the source code is just this:
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> (VMMaker forConfigurationFile: 'myConfig.config')
> 	deleteEntireGeneratedTree;
> 	generateEntire.
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> VMMaker is also designed to be scriptable (i.e. controllable independent
> of the VMMakerTool interactive tool). See Tim's class comment for details.
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> Dave

Maybe I didn't make myself clear :)

I know VMMaker is "scriptable" inside Squeak. What the OP was referring to was putting that translation step into a makefile. Which would need a tightly controlled setup of vm, image, and packages to work reliably. Which IMHO is too much trouble right now.

Maybe we just need to come up with a satisfying answer to the question raised in the bug report? It seems as if just describing how this was generated might be sufficient.

- Bert -