[Vm-dev] Cog: A question about: setInterruptCheckChain()

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu Sep 30 09:11:52 UTC 2010

On 30 September 2010 11:57, Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Voila, done.
>> Yep. Been there , did that :)
>> I had implemented own automatic code generator which generated
>> bindings for my abandoned smalltalk interpreter.
>> I used SWIG C++ compiler by writing own plugin to it.
>> So, what is stopping us from either use SWIG, or write own C/C++
>> parser/compiler for automatic
>> generation of external library bindings?
> Someone needs to do it :-)
Amen :)

>>>> No objections here. Shit happens. And its really don't matters where:
>>>> either in language/FFI or in C. You still have to fix that.
>>> It's not so much that shit happens but rather that your sarcastic comment
>>> is
>>> *completely* wrong and (I think) goes to show how little exposure to the
>>> resulting problems you (and pretty much everybody else arguing for that
>>> kind
>>> of stuff) really have.
>> Oh, please. I worked more than 2 years on single big C++ project, in
>> Visual Studio.
>> STL, templates, threads, 10 minutes of compilation time, incredibly
>> hard to move ahead,
>> incredibly hard to reproduce errors (since after 'fix' you were always
>> had to restart program and
>> repeat all steps which may possibly triggered bug). I am sick of C, really
>> sick.
>> If it would be so easy to develop in C, then no one (including me)
>> would even look into smalltalk direction.
> This isn't my claim. My claim is that for *platform integration tasks* C is
> superior. Not for general software development. But for a plugin that reads
> and writes the windows credential store, for a plugin that reads and writes
> the Apple keychain, for a plugin that interfaces with sockets, for a plugin
> that deals with platform windows, C/C++/C#/ObjC are the better choices.

How i could argue with that?
Of course for interfacing with C, C is better than any other language. :)
But its too late. My mind already tainted by smalltalk.
I want to do it in smalltalk way. I want to evaluate simple doit and
access computer's CMOS
memory, as demoed by Gerardo Richarte under SqueakNOS on ESUG conference.
I don't want to rebuild whole VM from scratch, each time i need to
change something.
And you are always need to change something, because we're not living
in a perfect world
and not running our programs under perfect OS, using perfect VM and
libraries and so on.

> Cheers,
>  - Andreas

Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

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