[Vm-dev] About Cocoa VMs

Esteban Lorenzano estebanlm at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 16:39:30 UTC 2011


yes... I think 10.4 is the oldest we can support

El 08/07/2011, a las 1:37p.m., John M McIntosh escribió:

> 
> OS 9 no I think it's been 7 years since a binary workable on OS 9 was built.
> 
> As for how old osx someone would have to look, 10.3 I think as it became really hard to support old old osx versions when the vm moved towards supporting macintel 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2011-07-08, at 12:18 PM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
> 
>> Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
>>> yes, that's probably the reason... I need to review link flags to make 10.5 compatible versions :P
>>> 
>> 
>> It would be good to make it run over any OS Version... Cocoa version should work on any OS release since Cocoa (that is all OS X versions, right?). Carbon VMs should also work on OS 9... (Thanks Eliot for a way to remember which one came first!) I'm not sure of the compatibility range of previous Mac VMs, but I heard on this list that many schools in the US have rather old Macs....
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Juan Vuletich
>> 
>>> El 08/07/2011, a las 10:57a.m., Juan Vuletich escribió:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello everyone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to ask you to try and use the recent VMs built by Esteban.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We all understand that it may not fully functional and could have some issues.
>>>>> But the point is, that the only way to discover glitches is to try it.
>>>>> Because if we wait till Esteban deliver perfect VM, it may never happen.
>>>>> Without people who testing it and providing feedback, it will simply won't work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, Mac owners, lets help Esteban to bring us new shiny toy and try
>>>>> using newly built VMs and give feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The VMs i am talking about is located here:
>>>>> - Cog JIT
>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Cog-Mac-Cocoa/
>>>>> - Stack VM (no JIT)
>>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/StackVM-Mac-Carbon/
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> For issues, you can use cog issue tracker
>>>>> (http://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/list), or vm-dev mailing list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lets not wait, but help in a form, which we can. After all, that's the
>>>>> only way to ensure that in future we will have good VM.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> Both VMs crash on my system at startup. Maybe it could be because of using OS X 10.5 and not 10.6? Tried them with Pharo 1.2 and 1.3, just downloaded from the Pharo site. Details follow:
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Juan Vuletich
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.2):
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Process:         StackVM [7495]
>>>> Path:            /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM
>>>> Identifier:      org.squeak.Cog
>>>> Version:         ??? (???)
>>>> Code Type:       X86 (Native)
>>>> Parent Process:  launchd [68]
>>>> 
>>>> Interval Since Last Report:          199492 sec
>>>> Crashes Since Last Report:           11
>>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
>>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   3
>>>> 
>>>> Date/Time:       2011-07-08 10:38:02.475 -0300
>>>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
>>>> Report Version:  6
>>>> Anonymous UUID:  715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
>>>> 
>>>> Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
>>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
>>>> Crashed Thread:  0
>>>> 
>>>> Dyld Error Message:
>>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.2):
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Process:         CogVM [7509]
>>>> Path:            /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM
>>>> Identifier:      org.squeakfoundation.Squeak
>>>> Version:         ??? (???)
>>>> Code Type:       X86 (Native)
>>>> Parent Process:  launchd [68]
>>>> 
>>>> Interval Since Last Report:          118 sec
>>>> Crashes Since Last Report:           1
>>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
>>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   18
>>>> 
>>>> Date/Time:       2011-07-08 10:40:00.562 -0300
>>>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
>>>> Report Version:  6
>>>> Anonymous UUID:  715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
>>>> 
>>>> Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
>>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
>>>> Crashed Thread:  0
>>>> 
>>>> Dyld Error Message:
>>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.3):
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Process:         StackVM [7524]
>>>> Path:            /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM
>>>> Identifier:      org.squeak.Cog
>>>> Version:         ??? (???)
>>>> Code Type:       X86 (Native)
>>>> Parent Process:  launchd [68]
>>>> 
>>>> Interval Since Last Report:          102 sec
>>>> Crashes Since Last Report:           1
>>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
>>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
>>>> 
>>>> Date/Time:       2011-07-08 10:41:43.149 -0300
>>>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
>>>> Report Version:  6
>>>> Anonymous UUID:  715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
>>>> 
>>>> Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
>>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
>>>> Crashed Thread:  0
>>>> 
>>>> Dyld Error Message:
>>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
>>>> 
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.3):
>>>> -----------------------------------------------
>>>> Process:         CogVM [7533]
>>>> Path:            /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM
>>>> Identifier:      org.squeakfoundation.Squeak
>>>> Version:         ??? (???)
>>>> Code Type:       X86 (Native)
>>>> Parent Process:  launchd [68]
>>>> 
>>>> Interval Since Last Report:          59 sec
>>>> Crashes Since Last Report:           1
>>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  0 sec
>>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   1
>>>> 
>>>> Date/Time:       2011-07-08 10:42:42.634 -0300
>>>> OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
>>>> Report Version:  6
>>>> Anonymous UUID:  715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
>>>> 
>>>> Exception Type:  EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
>>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
>>>> Crashed Thread:  0
>>>> 
>>>> Dyld Error Message:
>>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> System Configuration (Same for all 4 crashes):
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Model: Macmini2,1, BootROM MM21.009A.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2 Duo, 1.83 GHz, 2.5 GB
>>>> Graphics: kHW_IntelGMA950Item, GMA 950, spdisplays_builtin, spdisplays_integrated_vram
>>>> Memory Module: global_name
>>>> AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x86), 1.4.16.2
>>>> Bluetooth: Version 2.1.9f10, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
>>>> Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
>>>> Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS542580K9SA00, 74.53 GB
>>>> Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITACD-RW  CW-8124
>>>> USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, (null) mA
>>>> USB Device: IR Receiver, (null) mA
>>>> USB Device: NetScroll+ EYE, (null) mA
>>>> USB Device: Logitech USB Headset, (null) mA
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
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>>> Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3751 - Release Date: 07/08/11
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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