[Vm-dev] About Cocoa VMs
Mariano Martinez Peck
marianopeck at gmail.com
Mon Jul 11 10:09:37 UTC 2011
Esteban/Igor a couple of things:
1) I could build a cocoa vm and I set is as default for all my images from
now.
2) The proxy problem I mention some time ago seems to be working fine now.
3) I would create issues in Cog bugtracker for all the mentioned issues in
this thread.
cheers
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Casey Ransberger
<casey.obrien.r at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Panther added an odd req'ment, IIRC: one had to have a FireWire jack to
> install it (memory may fail, this might have been Tiger, not Panther.) It
> was pretty obvious that Apple was phasing out Macs older than FireWire. They
> seem to do this with both software and hardware on a pretty regular basis.
> When I was doing service work on Macs, I remember noticing that it was on a
> fairly regular schedule of X years, but I can't remember what small number X
> was.
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 9:37 AM, John M McIntosh <
> johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > OS 9 no I think it's been 7 years since a binary workable on OS 9 was
> built.
> >
> > As for how old osx someone would have to look, 10.3 I think as it became
> really hard to support old old osx versions when the vm moved towards
> supporting macintel
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 2011-07-08, at 12:18 PM, Juan Vuletich <juan at jvuletich.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Esteban Lorenzano wrote:
> >>> yes, that's probably the reason... I need to review link flags to make
> 10.5 compatible versions :P
> >>>
> >>
> >> It would be good to make it run over any OS Version... Cocoa version
> should work on any OS release since Cocoa (that is all OS X versions,
> right?). Carbon VMs should also work on OS 9... (Thanks Eliot for a way to
> remember which one came first!) I'm not sure of the compatibility range of
> previous Mac VMs, but I heard on this list that many schools in the US have
> rather old Macs....
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Juan Vuletich
> >>
> >>> El 08/07/2011, a las 10:57a.m., Juan Vuletich escribió:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Igor Stasenko wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello everyone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'd like to ask you to try and use the recent VMs built by Esteban.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We all understand that it may not fully functional and could have
> some issues.
> >>>>> But the point is, that the only way to discover glitches is to try
> it.
> >>>>> Because if we wait till Esteban deliver perfect VM, it may never
> happen.
> >>>>> Without people who testing it and providing feedback, it will simply
> won't work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, Mac owners, lets help Esteban to bring us new shiny toy and try
> >>>>> using newly built VMs and give feedback.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The VMs i am talking about is located here:
> >>>>> - Cog JIT
> >>>>> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/Cog-Mac-Cocoa/
> >>>>> - Stack VM (no JIT)
> >>>>>
> https://pharo-ic.lille.inria.fr/hudson/view/Cog/job/StackVM-Mac-Carbon/
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> For issues, you can use cog issue tracker
> >>>>> (http://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/list), or vm-dev mailing list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lets not wait, but help in a form, which we can. After all, that's
> the
> >>>>> only way to ensure that in future we will have good VM.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Both VMs crash on my system at startup. Maybe it could be because of
> using OS X 10.5 and not 10.6? Tried them with Pharo 1.2 and 1.3, just
> downloaded from the Pharo site. Details follow:
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this helps.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Juan Vuletich
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.2):
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Process: StackVM [7495]
> >>>> Path:
> /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM
> >>>> Identifier: org.squeak.Cog
> >>>> Version: ??? (???)
> >>>> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> >>>> Parent Process: launchd [68]
> >>>>
> >>>> Interval Since Last Report: 199492 sec
> >>>> Crashes Since Last Report: 11
> >>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 0 sec
> >>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 3
> >>>>
> >>>> Date/Time: 2011-07-08 10:38:02.475 -0300
> >>>> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
> >>>> Report Version: 6
> >>>> Anonymous UUID: 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
> >>>>
> >>>> Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
> >>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
> >>>> Crashed Thread: 0
> >>>>
> >>>> Dyld Error Message:
> >>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.2):
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Process: CogVM [7509]
> >>>> Path:
> /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.2.2-12353/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM
> >>>> Identifier: org.squeakfoundation.Squeak
> >>>> Version: ??? (???)
> >>>> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> >>>> Parent Process: launchd [68]
> >>>>
> >>>> Interval Since Last Report: 118 sec
> >>>> Crashes Since Last Report: 1
> >>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 0 sec
> >>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 18
> >>>>
> >>>> Date/Time: 2011-07-08 10:40:00.562 -0300
> >>>> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
> >>>> Report Version: 6
> >>>> Anonymous UUID: 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
> >>>>
> >>>> Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
> >>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
> >>>> Crashed Thread: 0
> >>>>
> >>>> Dyld Error Message:
> >>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Problem Details (Stack VM, Pharo 1.3):
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Process: StackVM [7524]
> >>>> Path:
> /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/StackVM.app/Contents/MacOS/StackVM
> >>>> Identifier: org.squeak.Cog
> >>>> Version: ??? (???)
> >>>> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> >>>> Parent Process: launchd [68]
> >>>>
> >>>> Interval Since Last Report: 102 sec
> >>>> Crashes Since Last Report: 1
> >>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 0 sec
> >>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1
> >>>>
> >>>> Date/Time: 2011-07-08 10:41:43.149 -0300
> >>>> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
> >>>> Report Version: 6
> >>>> Anonymous UUID: 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
> >>>>
> >>>> Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
> >>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
> >>>> Crashed Thread: 0
> >>>>
> >>>> Dyld Error Message:
> >>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
> >>>>
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Problem Details (Cog VM, Pharo 1.3):
> >>>> -----------------------------------------------
> >>>> Process: CogVM [7533]
> >>>> Path:
> /Users/juanvuletich/Desktop/Cuis/IgorVMs/Pharo-1.3/CogVM.app/Contents/MacOS/CogVM
> >>>> Identifier: org.squeakfoundation.Squeak
> >>>> Version: ??? (???)
> >>>> Code Type: X86 (Native)
> >>>> Parent Process: launchd [68]
> >>>>
> >>>> Interval Since Last Report: 59 sec
> >>>> Crashes Since Last Report: 1
> >>>> Per-App Interval Since Last Report: 0 sec
> >>>> Per-App Crashes Since Last Report: 1
> >>>>
> >>>> Date/Time: 2011-07-08 10:42:42.634 -0300
> >>>> OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L31a)
> >>>> Report Version: 6
> >>>> Anonymous UUID: 715B95CF-0DC2-4913-8060-495A76806674
> >>>>
> >>>> Exception Type: EXC_BREAKPOINT (SIGTRAP)
> >>>> Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000002, 0x0000000000000000
> >>>> Crashed Thread: 0
> >>>>
> >>>> Dyld Error Message:
> >>>> unknown required load command 0x80000022
> >>>>
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> System Configuration (Same for all 4 crashes):
> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> Model: Macmini2,1, BootROM MM21.009A.B00, 2 processors, Intel Core 2
> Duo, 1.83 GHz, 2.5 GB
> >>>> Graphics: kHW_IntelGMA950Item, GMA 950, spdisplays_builtin,
> spdisplays_integrated_vram
> >>>> Memory Module: global_name
> >>>> AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x168C, 0x86),
> 1.4.16.2
> >>>> Bluetooth: Version 2.1.9f10, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial
> ports
> >>>> Network Service: Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
> >>>> Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS542580K9SA00, 74.53 GB
> >>>> Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITACD-RW CW-8124
> >>>> USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, (null) mA
> >>>> USB Device: IR Receiver, (null) mA
> >>>> USB Device: NetScroll+ EYE, (null) mA
> >>>> USB Device: Logitech USB Headset, (null) mA
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----
> >>> No virus found in this message.
> >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>> Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3751 - Release Date: 07/08/11
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
--
Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
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