[Vm-dev] CMakeMaker--whaddya think?

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Wed Apr 16 17:13:25 UTC 2014


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com> wrote:

>
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> 2014-04-16 18:48 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm at gmail.com>:
>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Apr 2014, at 18:33, Nicolas Cellier <
>> nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> 2014-04-16 14:38 GMT+02:00 Göran Krampe <goran at krampe.se>:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey!
>>>
>>> On 04/16/2014 01:22 PM, gettimothy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Estaban,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  >>Is a bit frustrating so I will say it again: CMakeMaker already does
>>>> that. And it does it for *any* vm flavour (we are generating pharovm
>>>> because that’s what we are using, but the builders for cog, stack and
>>>> even interpreter are there, and working… bah the interpreter version
>>>> needs >>some work).
>>>>   >>Nothing prevents you to copy the pharo flavour and adapt it as
>>>> squeak flavour.
>>>>   >>Nothing prevents you to do the same for newspeak.
>>>>
>>>>   >>cheers,
>>>>   >>Esteban
>>>>
>>>>   >>ps: Thanks Dave for noticing :)
>>>>
>>>> I did not know that project existed;  of course I will start with that
>>>> and with the existing Interpreter stuff Dave mentioned.
>>>>
>>>> Its is refreshing to know my instincts on how to approach the project
>>>> where correct! Heck, we even came up with the same name for it!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just wanted to mention that at 3DICC we are in the process of moving
>>> over to the Pharo build system for our client side (OSX and Windows) VMs.
>>>
>>> Just a reflection: It was quite easy to get started, finding a proper
>>> place to add 3DICC subclasses, adding in methods for our plugins etc. I got
>>> distracted by other things but now I am picking up our OSX build again so
>>> soon we should be using it for real.
>>>
>>> And also, it builds fine with clang! Thanks Esteban :)
>>>
>>> regards, Göran
>>>
>>
>> BEWARE: it builds fine, but the resulting VM behaves weirdly : see
>>
>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11130/Special-byte-code-sequences-mess-up-the-stack-of-VM
>>
>>
>> that’s a real strange case, that does not happens all the time (in fact,
>> that’s one of the problems we have: it is hard to have a reproducible
>> case),
>>
>>
> For me, the ssnippet from Stephan Eggermont works reliably well
> (I mean allways fails in official 3.0 distribution for MacOSX )
>
> 1 to: 1000 do: [ :i |
>         | string |
>         Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr.
>         1 timesRepeat: [
>             (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a)
>                 reversed.
>         ].
>     ].
>
> When Transcript is opened, I never reached iteration 1000 on my mac with
> official VM.
> There's always an Integer that does not understand reversed in my way.
>

Hence to get a rep[roducible case, that you could even look at in the
Simulator, merely evaluate

Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true.
1 to: 1000 do: [ :i |
        | string |
        Transcript show: 'Iteration '; show: i; cr.
        1 timesRepeat: [
            (string := String new: 1000 withAll: $a)
                reversed.
        ].
    ].

and when you start-up the image it should crash with no user intervention.
 Voila, a reproducible case...


>
>> Either we are back to disecting correct set of gcc/clang flags
>> Or we shall revert to an older gcc (4.2.1 works for me OSX 10.6.8 Xcode
>> 3.2.6)
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
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>>
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>


-- 
best,
Eliot
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