[Vm-dev] New Spur trunk image available
stepharo
stepharo at free.fr
Fri Oct 17 16:36:45 UTC 2014
Thanks eliot I'm really eager to try and use Spur on Pharo. This opens
so much for the future.
On 17/10/14 08:51, Eliot Miranda wrote:
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> Hi All,
>
> finally the Spur Squeak trunk image is updateable. The image in
> http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/SpurImages/2014-10-16/ was
> created today and thanks to Bert Freudenberg's latest Monticello work
> can be updated independently of the non-Spur trunk. Spur VMs are
> available in http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/VM.r3105/ (and
> later as they appear). Without wanting to appear too overconfident
> the Spur system looks to be ready for use apart from image segments
> (which I hope to have working some time next month). I'm really
> interested in having this stress tested by as many people as
> possible. Spur really does offer a significant performance and
> functionality improvement over the current system, but it needs
> testing to ensure its reliability.
>
> Esteban Lorenzano is hard at work on the Pharo bootstrap for Spur so I
> hope Pharo 4 Spur will be available soon.
>
> As far as trunk goes, using Spur alongside non-Spur trunk is going to
> be difficult to manage for the near future. Right now, Spur modifies
> the Collections, Compiler, Kernel and System packages, and this is
> done by auto-editing the non-Spur versions of those packages,
> something I do periodically as new versions arrive. I also auto-edit
> trunk configurations (the part of the image update scheme that ensures
> packages are loaded in the right order when there are dependencies
> between packages) from non-Spur "update" to Spur "update.spur" forms.
> This at east means that Spur can keep up with trunk. But it does
> /not/ provide a way of committing to Collections.spur, Compiler.spur,
> Kernel.spur or System.spur without getting out of sync with non-Spur
> trunk. Note that apart from these packages, one /can/ safely commit
> any other package from a Spur image to trunk.
>
> Right now the plan is to release both V3 (the pre-Spur format) and
> Spur versions of Squeak 4.6 (I hope it'll be called Squeak 5.0). This
> isn't my preference. I'd like to see just Spur released, once
> reliability is verified. But I understand the safety and
> backward-compatibility concerns (Spur won't be able to load V3 image
> segments, and vice verse). The issue is of course that we have this
> tricky package situation to manage where, to keep the two systems in
> sync, modifications to Collections, Compiler, Kernel and System need
> to be committed from V3 and auto-edited to Spur. I think that's too
> clumsy to be practicable. Perhaps allowing the two systems to fork
> and doing a manual merge will be acceptable, but it'll be work to keep
> them in sync.
> --
> best,
> Eliot
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