[Vm-dev] [Poll] Who is interested in, thinking about, or already contributing to a 64-bit OpenSmalltalk VM for Windows?

[Tobias Pape]

On 06.07.2016, at 04:04, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:

>  
> This helps Eliot and other cross-platform VM developers to debug like they
> are doing now.
> 
> Using IDE has a lot of advantages, but maintaining the IDE-specific or even worse IDE-version-specific project files is not sustainable
> For these reasons, Eliot removed the Xcode projects for Mac, I don't think re-introducing them for windows would be a good idea.
> Instead, I much much prefer to generate the project files via cmake.
> 
> Why do we need project files?  Why do we need cmake?  I don't want to keep on fighting this battle, please.  Esteban is already working on the issue of generating the header file that generates just the defines that describe the platform facilities.  Plugins are selected via plugins.int and plugins.ext.  Optional compilation can be controlled with the relevant code in platforms/PLATFORM/plugins/Makefile which can test for available support libraries and abort creation if so.
> 
> We. Do. Not. Need/ A. CMake. Step. Other, Than. To. Define. The. Platform's. Facilities.
> 
> I. Do. Not. Want. Project. Files. Under. Any. Circumstances.
> 
> Please, I thought we had reached agreement on this when we discussed moving to github.
>  

Dear all,

please lets defer that discussion until a later point in time, where
we have more energy to discuss that less emotional.
We're all invested in adjusting to the github move, I presume so lets focus on that.

Let's defer win64 a bit, lets defer MSVC a bit.

But lets discuss it eventually, and then, inevitably, we have to re-evaluate 
a more portable (with regards to build-environments such as VisualStudio,Eclipse,Xcode) 
build system, be it cmake, scons, gyp, autotools, waf, or whatever.

But please lets wait until we are comfortable with the current setup of GitHub, Travis, AppVeyor, bintray, and the like.

Let's have a tea or a drink.

Best regards
	-Tobias